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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 25 Sep 2009 21:51:55
Message: <4abd73bb$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Yes, it's so friggin' impossible that I bow in respect for the 
>> tortured souls that use it to produce some of these images:
> 
> To be fair, each of those I'm guessing took weeks to model. :-) I just 
> wish I could get that good. If I could reproduce a reasonable facsimile 
> of what I saw in photographs, I'd be happy. :-)

I too lack artistic skills and go for "copy".  My /modus operandi/ is: 
whenever I see a great picture, I try to reproduce it.  I fail more 
often than anything, sure... :)

>> Start by learning the "box modelling" technique.
> 
> I'm waiting for a Minority-Report style 3D modeling interface.

I remember that video... :)

while that doesn't happen, at least Blender 2.5 is getting quite a 
face-lift.  The splash screen alone looks as good as any found in modern 
IDEs:

http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=167428

The Hotkeys dropdown is sure to make some converts... :D


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 25 Sep 2009 23:17:32
Message: <4abd87cc$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> while that doesn't happen, at least Blender 2.5 is getting quite a 
> face-lift. 

I would far rather they fix the bugs and finish the documentation than work 
on the splash screen.  However, I understand it *is* free software (thanks, 
Warp!) and that splash screens are probably much more fun to code. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 25 Sep 2009 23:45:32
Message: <4abd8e5c@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> while that doesn't happen, at least Blender 2.5 is getting quite a 
>> face-lift. 
> 
> I would far rather they fix the bugs and finish the documentation than 
> work on the splash screen.  However, I understand it *is* free software 
> (thanks, Warp!) and that splash screens are probably much more fun to 
> code. :-)

You know that splash screen is just part of the overall new graphical 
user interface engine for 2.5, don't you?  Couple that with volumetrics 
and an optimized raytracing core, and Blender 2.5 will fly like never 
before...

nobody works on documentation when they're busy coding...  Managers 
should do that in their spare time! :D


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 25 Sep 2009 23:47:04
Message: <4abd8eb8$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> You know that splash screen is just part of the overall new graphical 
> user interface engine for 2.5, don't you?

I haven't really been following it. It was more just being snarky. :-)

I'd probably use blender a whole bunch more but for the bugs I run into.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 25 Sep 2009 23:49:07
Message: <4abd8f33$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Care to define what "extrude" means?
>>
>> It does exactly what you would think it does, given the name.
> 
> No, I mean... I don't know what the word "extrude" means.

To pull out.

...Chambers


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 26 Sep 2009 06:48:06
Message: <4abdf166@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:

> I too lack artistic skills and go for "copy".  My /modus operandi/ is: 
> whenever I see a great picture, I try to reproduce it.  I fail more 
> often than anything, sure... :)

I do the same thing with music.

You show me a piece of music, and I can tell you exactly why it works 
and why it sounds cool. But you show me a blank piece of paper and I'm 
like "hmm, what would sound cool?"

I think I'm basically too much of an automaton to be creative. :-(

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 26 Sep 2009 13:41:50
Message: <4abe525e$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> You show me a piece of music, and I can tell you exactly why it works 
> and why it sounds cool. But you show me a blank piece of paper and I'm 
> like "hmm, what would sound cool?"

There's a book called "This is your brain on music" that's actually very 
interesting. I got half way thru it and then left it in the hotel, and I 
never bought it again. But it's all about what you might call the technology 
of music itself (not creating music, but why scales work and stuff). It kind 
of goes about answering the question "why does everyone use the same scales" 
and such.  "Why does this form of music sound sad, and what distinguishes it 
from happy music."  Etc.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 26 Sep 2009 14:17:04
Message: <4abe5aa0$1@news.povray.org>
>> You show me a piece of music, and I can tell you exactly why it works 
>> and why it sounds cool. But you show me a blank piece of paper and I'm 
>> like "hmm, what would sound cool?"
> 
> There's a book called "This is your brain on music" that's actually very 
> interesting. I got half way thru it and then left it in the hotel, and I 
> never bought it again. But it's all about what you might call the 
> technology of music itself (not creating music, but why scales work and 
> stuff). It kind of goes about answering the question "why does everyone 
> use the same scales" and such.  "Why does this form of music sound sad, 
> and what distinguishes it from happy music."  Etc.

Chromatic scales, diatonic scales, pentatonic scales, Pythagorean 
tuning, equal-tempered tuning, harmonic series, the circle of fifths, 
major and minor scales... it's amazing what you can pick up if your 
bored but curious.

And FWIW, not everybody uses the same scales. (Particularly people you 
wouldn't class as "Westerners".)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 26 Sep 2009 14:30:09
Message: <4abe5db1$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> And FWIW, not everybody uses the same scales. (Particularly people you 
> wouldn't class as "Westerners".)

Everyone uses the same octaves, and everyone partitions the octave in the 
same ratios, even if they have different points where they say "that's a note."

Anyway, I only got halfway thru the book, so I might be misrepresenting 
something a bit. But it was an interesting book.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Be very afraid...
Date: 26 Sep 2009 15:07:06
Message: <4abe665a@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> You show me a piece of music, and I can tell you exactly why it works 
>>> and why it sounds cool. But you show me a blank piece of paper and 
>>> I'm like "hmm, what would sound cool?"

We're performers, not writers. ;)

>> "why does everyone use the same scales" and such.  "Why does this form 
>> of music sound sad, and what distinguishes it from happy music."  Etc.

It's the balance between harmonic tensions and relaxations present in 
adjacent intervals.  In minor scale modes, points of tensions are 
positioned a little bit earlier in the scale than in major (happy) scales.

Of course, rhythm might have a say on this too... :)

> Chromatic scales, diatonic scales, pentatonic scales, Pythagorean 
> tuning, equal-tempered tuning, harmonic series, the circle of fifths, 
> major and minor scales... it's amazing what you can pick up if your 
> bored but curious.

I don't think that has to do with boredom.  Whichever field you choose 
for hobby or career, you're likely to want to know more about it, its 
history, techniques etc.

> And FWIW, not everybody uses the same scales. (Particularly people you 
> wouldn't class as "Westerners".)

They use theirs (particularly the pentatonic). ;)


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