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On 03-Jan-09 23:46, Florian Pesth wrote:
> Am Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:38:15 -0500 schrieb Florian Pesth:
>
>> Which song / album?
it may have been Funny Ways, but I am not sure.
>> Maybe I can give some (subjective) recommodations, I
>> have some of their albums.
>> Do you know some good italian progrock?
Actually: no at least not that I am aware of.
US, UK, Dutch, Scandinavian even German would not have been a problem,
but Italian??
>>
>>> BTW are you sure this video is in the public domain?
>
> Just to make it clear - I buy all my music - and agree with your point on
> copyright.
No problem. I will assume that you did not watch the link you posted
then. ;)
There are actually two points on the copyright issue, one is the obvious
and the other is that rigorous application makes recommending music to
'friends' very hard.
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On 03-Jan-09 23:38, Florian Pesth wrote:
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>> BTW are you sure this video is in the public domain?
>
> I'm sorry, you are right. Checking it, it is probably not, although it
> was produced for the second german television ZDF, which is financed
> publically, but of course that is no excuse.
Why does the info then describe it as for a belgium TV channel?
No, I am not going to recheck the link, it was too much of a fight to
get youtube back to english after it. :(
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andrel wrote:
> it is time for youtube to do the same. Until they do, we have to treat
> anything there as illegal uploads.
Actually, thinking on it, there are an awful lot of places that use youtube
to serve their own content to the public, like
http://www.rhfleet.org/site/imax/animalopolis.cfm
does. So it's really far from clear how much of the commercial content is
actually illegal. It wouldn't surprise me to learn many of the rock videos
are actually uploaded by the artists to be linked from their own sites.
(That's an amusing video there, too.)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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On 04-Jan-09 18:06, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> it is time for youtube to do the same. Until they do, we have to treat
>> anything there as illegal uploads.
>
> Actually, thinking on it, there are an awful lot of places that use
> youtube to serve their own content to the public, like
> http://www.rhfleet.org/site/imax/animalopolis.cfm does.
I know, if the website of my research center finally will be publicly
available, the videos will be hosted by youtube. That was not my idea.
> So it's really far from clear how much of the commercial content
> is actually illegal.
Indeed
> It wouldn't surprise me to learn many of the rock
> videos are actually uploaded by the artists to be linked from their own
> sites.
It might be, but then it appears that quite a lot of people were in very
famous bands and in a lot of them. ;)
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QpRCK1IbiE is uploaded by the
artist herself whereas e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV3WkBZrcp0
comes from the same DVD but is almost certainly illegally uploaded by
someone else. (I feel totally relaxed viewing these as I have the DVD ;)
) How would anyone not knowing about quinlanroad know which one is the
legal one (unless there is a note in the video), especially if artists
do not use their own name but the name of the street they once lived in
as a tag? And does that matter?
> (That's an amusing video there, too.)
That also illustrates the IP difficulties. It consists of footage and a
soundtrack. The montage is clearly IP by this site, but did they have
permission to use the footage and the vocals? How do I know? Again, does
that matter?
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On 04-Jan-09 21:40, andrel wrote:
> Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QpRCK1IbiE is uploaded by the
> artist herself whereas e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV3WkBZrcp0
> comes from the same DVD but is almost certainly illegally uploaded by
> someone else. (I feel totally relaxed viewing these as I have the DVD ;)
> ) How would anyone not knowing about quinlanroad know which one is the
> legal one (unless there is a note in the video), especially if artists
> do not use their own name but the name of the street they once lived in
> as a tag? And does that matter?
>
Apparently everything can be found on the internet, but this is getting
a bit silly. Throughout the day I have done some (very limited) work
while in the background I had the Black Symphony DVD from Within
Temptation playing for the first time. (Nice work btw). Also when typing
this response to Darren. I listened a bit to Loreena as a consequence of
this post. What have they in common? not much I would say, one combines
celtic folk and oriental and traditional music and the other group plays
'gothic metal' and then I stumbled upon
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hGgvASvUIR8 and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fSlXkoGiFY
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
> one combines celtic folk and oriental and traditional music
I have wondered why celtic-style music is so popular, and why does it
evoke such idyllic mental images of medieval Europe, with castles, villages,
bards and exotic paganism. It also usually evokes images of the high fantasy
genre, which usually uses as its universe something very similar to medieval
Europe.
Did real celtic music of the period really sound anything like that?
--
- Warp
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On 04-Jan-09 23:56, Warp wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> one combines celtic folk and oriental and traditional music
>
> I have wondered why celtic-style music is so popular,
Main reason for me is that because they have a musical tradition of
songs there are more exceptional singers per 1000 inhabitants than in
e.g. the Netherlands. I happen to like good voices.
> and why does it
> evoke such idyllic mental images of medieval Europe, with castles, villages,
> bards and exotic paganism. It also usually evokes images of the high fantasy
> genre, which usually uses as its universe something very similar to medieval
> Europe.
>
> Did real celtic music of the period really sound anything like that?
>
I am not a true expert but I think that music of that period sounded
like contemporary celtic music. E.g. Blackmore's Night is a group that
tries to capture in some songs the feeling of medieval music though it
probably is still a bit of guessing. They get sometimes accused of
playing folk.
I would not be surprised if even the old finish music that was played in
pubs and on gatherings in the 18th century was more like celtic music
than Sibelius. So my guess is that the Scots and the Irish have more
been able to keep the tradition than mainland europe where the music
became more intellectual and a form of art than something to bond a
group of fiends.
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andrel wrote:
> How would anyone not knowing about quinlanroad know which one is the
> legal one (unless there is a note in the video),
Errr, how would you know the note is correct? :-)
It used to be that at least in the USA, you actually had to put a copyright
notice on the copyrighted material to be protected. That too went out the
window, sadly enough.
>> (That's an amusing video there, too.)
>
> That also illustrates the IP difficulties. It consists of footage and a
> soundtrack. The montage is clearly IP by this site, but did they have
> permission to use the footage and the vocals? How do I know? Again, does
> that matter?
I'm assuming that a specialty movie theatre posting preview of the movies
they are showing have permission to do so. Just like when I go in person to
a movie theatre, I expect the movie theatre has obtained permission to show
the movie to the public.
I'm not going to get so paranoid that I'm going to call up Mr Lucas to see
if the 20th anniversary showing of Star Wars at the local movie theatre is
authorized.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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andrel wrote:
> That also illustrates the IP difficulties.
For that matter, you asked how to listen without buying the CD. How do you
know the CD is authorized? :-) I have a few movies I bought on DVD in China.
Probably bootleg, of course, but *I* wasn't the one copying them. Is that "bad"?
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 04-Jan-09 23:56, Warp wrote:
> > andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >> one combines celtic folk and oriental and traditional music
> >
> > I have wondered why celtic-style music is so popular,
>
> Main reason for me is that because they have a musical tradition of
> songs there are more exceptional singers per 1000 inhabitants than in
> e.g. the Netherlands. I happen to like good voices.
I don't like human voices in music. Specially as the words spoken tend to take
the audience attention's away from the music itself, a good excuse for the
musical poorness of too many songs.
That said, I enjoy celtic instrumentation and style...
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