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From: Hans-Detlev Fink
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 18 Sep 1998 06:23:13
Message: <3602261F.45B2@pecos.n.o-s.p.a.m.de>
Forgive him, he simply doesn't know better. And hopefully
he has learned his lesson now.

BTW:
When I learned English at school it was "pure British".
(It's better today, they learn both at school, at
least in writing. Pronounciation is still British.)
And we learned _only_ "z" there. Being made curious by this
discussion I tried to find out. I went through all
dictionaries my wife (she's an English teacher) owns
(about 5). They are all British and say unisono "organize,
optimize, ...". (E.g. "Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
of Current English").

So shouldn't it be the other way around: Z=British, S=US?

Forgive me being nit-picking, it's just out of curiosity.

Hans

PS: Continue keeping POV "bilingual". It's The Right Thing IMHO.

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povray.org admin team wrote:
[ . . . ]
> We also would like to officially nominate Jason Barlow for the 'Rudest Support
> Email of 1998' award.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Return-Path: jas### [at] xmissioncom
> From: "Jason Barlow" <jas### [at] xmissioncom>
> To: <win### [at] povrayorg>
> Subject: Minor Bug...
> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:03:02 -0600
> 
> [request for the following 'bug' to be fixed in version 3.1 deleted]
> 
> Whoever is writing  the string/menu resources for  the Windows version is not
> very adept with words like optimized, minimized, or customized...all of which
> are misspelled: optimised, minimised, and customised in POVray. Bad spelling
> is just one of those things that detracts from the professionalism of the
> product and makes users question the intelligence of the authors.
> 
> [rest of email deleted]
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> He's questioning _our_ intelligence ... ? ;)
> 
> -- POV-Ray Webmaster


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From: Henon Fabien
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 18 Sep 1998 20:41:15
Message: <3602FBD1.F8C65200@club-internet.fr>
Hi ! I guess that your message has to be taken with irony. I do not want to
start
any 'quibble' here, but I have never understood how you could manage with such

intricate measurements. When I spent my working year in Scotland, I noticed
that even people (at least the younger ones) you have been brought up with
inches, stones, miles and  feet tend to use the metric system.

Granted, this post is a bit off topic, but that's my say.

H.Fabien



> Well, I'm an American and I find it very aggravating that the rest of the
> world won't come around to OUR way of thinking.  I mean, doesn't it make a
> lot more sense to have 12 inches in a foot and 3 feet in a yard and 5280
> feet in a mile?  What's with all this base ten measuring systems?
> Zappameters and dayglometers or whatever!!
> Besides, "Z" is just a cool letter. :-)
>
> Just my two cents  (American currency, of course!)
>
> <MAJOR SNIP>
> >He's questioning _our_ intelligence ... ? ;)
> >
> >-- POV-Ray Webmaster


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From: Philippe Debar
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 19 Sep 1998 05:45:47
Message: <36036f3b.0@news.povray.org>
Johannes Hubert wrote in message <36014a24.0@news.povray.org>...
>I don't know, but it's not like W95 would be sold in English over here in
>Europe. Well, in Great Britain, Ireland etc. it probably is :-)
>I made a quick check: The international W95 CDs of the MSDN contain W95
>versions for the languages below (for some of which I have no idea what
they
>are :-), but I could not find a British-English version, and on the U.S.
>version CD contains only one language version.
>
>:-)
>Johannes.


>(...)

I do not know about documentation nor distribution...
But MS Word proposes these 'english languages' for checking spelling
(please, don't check mine):

+English (Australian)
+English (British)
+English (Canadian)
+English (Carribean)
+English (Ireland)
+English (Jamaica)
+English (New Zealand)
+English (South Africa)
+English (United States)


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From: Robert H  Morrison
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 19 Sep 1998 09:02:05
Message: <01bde3c5$89e39da0$40563fc3@hitex_mo.hitex.de>
> 
> We also would like to officially nominate Jason Barlow for the 'Rudest Support
> Email of 1998' award.
> 

He's GOT MY VOTE!!

Jason your chances of winning look REALLY, REALLY GOOD!!

What COLOUR is his award certificate?
Does he MAXIMISE his EGO by MINIMISING his KNOWLEDGE?
Does he even OWN an English language dictionary?

These questions and MORE will be answered at the AWARDS CEREMONY...

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From: Alessandro Coppo
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 19 Sep 1998 11:33:12
Message: <3603c0a8.0@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote in message <36015953.0@news.povray.org>...
>In article <3602fde1.47561389@news.povray.org> , new### [at] DESPAMpovrayorg
(povray.org admin team) wrote:
>
>And thinking before writing is another "gift" this person does not have.
BUT he should have!!! After all POV-Ray is *FREE* and there is *NO*
justification for such an assault!


You are ABSOLUTELY right!!! If I pay for a program, I might complain
(POLITELY, because the people who wrote it are humans like everybody else
and can make mistakes) but when I get a free program, I always get MORE than
what I payed for it.... ;-)


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From: Daniel Hargreaves
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 19 Sep 1998 14:59:53
Message: <3603F08C.846C8C0D@worldnet.att.net>
"povray.org admin team" wrote:
<SNIP>

> very adept with words like optimized, minimized, or customized...all of which
> are misspelled: optimised, minimised, and customised in POVray. Bad spelling
> is just one of those things that detracts from the professionalism of the
> product and makes users question the intelligence of the authors.
>
> [rest of email deleted]
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> He's questioning _our_ intelligence ... ? ;)
>
> -- POV-Ray Webmaster

That's pretty funny, considering Windows 98 uses the 'Z' spelling also. I have to
agree with the POV team on this one. Keep up the the good work guys.

--
Daniel Hargreaves
SD Graphics
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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 19 Sep 1998 20:21:26
Message: <36043c76.0@news.povray.org>
Well, I understand how someone could find that easier.  After all, if you're
brought up speaking one language, you'll find it hard speaking a second
language.  The same goes for all measurements too.  Personally, I find
metric easier (especially with MAX grid manipulation).  However, I totally
understand.  Happy tracing!!!

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Lance.


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 19 Sep 1998 20:36:18
Message: <36043ff2.0@news.povray.org>
Well, I just find it downright funny that someone could be so rude and
ignorant.  I mean, I've submitted bug reports (I'm sure a lot of people here
have) but never in a tone like that, and especially not so uninformed!  Does
anyone here think that I should set up a little place for this person on my
website?  Perhaps a kind of shrine to the 'Rudest Support
Email of 1998.

All I can say is, Jason, you have REALLY outdone yourself!

--
Lance.

"Maximise you vocab, get an English dictionary today!"

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From: David Greaves
Subject: Z - This year's most ARROGANT letter
Date: 20 Sep 1998 13:40:53
Message: <36052EAB.EC19F15@telekinesys.co.uk>
:)

If you look at it, even the letter Z (pronounced zed of course)  is arrogant.
All those angles and straight lines.

Its kinda like a backwards S really ;)

Anyway, it's natural that a ray-tracing product should use the more subtle British S.

Much more scope for those nice curvy reflections that we like.

David
A British sort of chap.

Hmm - Maybe it should be Jazon?


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Z - This year's most ARROGANT letter
Date: 20 Sep 1998 13:54:58
Message: <360533A6.F21EF353@pacbell.net>
David Greaves wrote:

> If you look at it, even the letter Z (pronounced zed of course)  is arrogant.
> All those angles and straight lines.

"Pronounced zed" ?

In my albeit American opinion there are too few words
containing the cool letter Z. S's are like opions almost
every word has one ;  )
Imagine how you would feel if you couldn't cop a few
Z'zzzzz once in while.

> Anyway, it's natural that a ray-tracing product should use the more subtle British
S.

Natural is as natural does.

> David
> A British sort of chap.
> Hmm - Maybe it should be Jazon?

  Jason ? Wasn't he that monstrous kid in the movie
Friday the 13th ?
He's Back and He's Ruder than Ever.
Now playing on Pov-Ray bug reports everywhere.

Ken


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