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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 25 Jan 2014 06:41:48
Message: <52e3a2fc$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/01/14 10:03, Stephen wrote:
> 
> Those primitive stone age tuits made of granite were awfully slow to
> work. Well! So John said, from his experience. ;-)
> 

You young whippersnapper! Show some respect for your elders!

John
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 25 Jan 2014 07:21:23
Message: <52e3ac43@news.povray.org>
On 25-1-2014 11:03, Stephen wrote:

> I thought that you had the franchise for the electronic ones, pertaining
> to this NG.

I waived franchise for the greater good of us all :-)

>
> Those primitive stone age tuits made of granite were awfully slow to
> work. Well! So John said, from his experience. ;-)
>
Yes indeed. I am still the happy owner of one of those... with a hole! 
It sits in my garden, all its forces spent.

Thomas


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 25 Jan 2014 07:43:00
Message: <52e3b154$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/01/14 12:21, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-1-2014 11:03, Stephen wrote:
> 
>> I thought that you had the franchise for the electronic ones, pertaining
>> to this NG.
> 
> I waived franchise for the greater good of us all :-)
> 
>>
>> Those primitive stone age tuits made of granite were awfully slow to
>> work. Well! So John said, from his experience. ;-)
>>
> Yes indeed. I am still the happy owner of one of those... with a hole!
> It sits in my garden, all its forces spent.
> 
> Thomas

Thomas, I envy you. From the looks of it, that has to be one of the
first tuits ever made by hand. As you know, the first ones were found
objects and it was only when Stephen, back in the neolithic era, had the
idea of making them by hand in order to increase the supply that human
productiveness began to increase. Unfortunately, he sold every one that
he made to finance his craving for uisge beatha; consequently he never
managed to corner the market because he never got a round tuit.

John
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You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 25 Jan 2014 10:04:40
Message: <52e3d288$1@news.povray.org>
On 25-1-2014 13:42, Doctor John wrote:

> Thomas, I envy you. From the looks of it, that has to be one of the
> first tuits ever made by hand. As you know, the first ones were found
> objects and it was only when Stephen, back in the neolithic era, had the
> idea of making them by hand in order to increase the supply that human
> productiveness began to increase. Unfortunately, he sold every one that
> he made to finance his craving for uisge beatha; consequently he never
> managed to corner the market because he never got a round tuit.

What a sad story indeed. You see that so often: talented people throwing 
away their life for the ephemeral pleasures of artificial paradises. The 
tuit is very eroded but on the reverse side there are still some very 
faint marks that resemble writing of some sort. I seem to recognize a 
'S' rune. Do you think this could be one of Stephen's originals?

Thomas


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 25 Jan 2014 11:56:25
Message: <52e3ecb9$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/01/14 15:04, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> <snip> The
> tuit is very eroded but on the reverse side there are still some very
> faint marks that resemble writing of some sort. I seem to recognize a
> 'S' rune. Do you think this could be one of Stephen's originals?

OMG. If it is, its value is inestimable. Of course, only Stephen could
confirm its provenance but, sadly, his mind has been warped by years of
playing with ray-tracing software. :-D

John
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 26 Jan 2014 03:11:38
Message: <52e4c33a@news.povray.org>
On 25-1-2014 17:55, Doctor John wrote:
> OMG. If it is, its value is inestimable. Of course, only Stephen could
> confirm its provenance but, sadly, his mind has been warped by years of
> playing with ray-tracing software. :-D

Sad. Sad. I always warn people around me to avoid (repeat: avoid!) 
ray-tracing. Its pernicious effects are even worse than uisge beatha :-o

Which brings be back to that marvellous Stanford bunny which looks very 
very good. With all the round tuits I have got I should be able now to 
experiment with sslt too... when I have finished, that is, playing with 
silly booted, naked men ;-)

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 26 Jan 2014 05:16:56
Message: <52e4e098@news.povray.org>
On 26/01/2014 8:11 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-1-2014 17:55, Doctor John wrote:
>> OMG. If it is, its value is inestimable. Of course, only Stephen could
>> confirm its provenance but, sadly, his mind has been warped by years of
>> playing with ray-tracing software. :-D
>
> Sad. Sad. I always warn people around me to avoid (repeat: avoid!)
> ray-tracing. Its pernicious effects are even worse than uisge beatha :-o
>
> Which brings be back to that marvellous Stanford bunny which looks very
> very good. With all the round tuits I have got I should be able now to
> experiment with sslt too... when I have finished, that is, playing with
> silly booted, naked men ;-)
>

While you two sweety wives have been hanging over the garden fence 
gossiping. I've been grafting. :-P

I made this in Blender and except for the cylinder it is all text. I 
tried to use a Keltic font for the writing but the mesh sizes were 
horrendous.

Note the artefact at the horizon on the reverse? A weeks supply of 
genuine ancient almost round Tuits for the first correct solution.
Hurry before supply outstrips demand!

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 26 Jan 2014 07:23:26
Message: <52e4fe3e$1@news.povray.org>
On 26-1-2014 11:16, Stephen wrote:
> While you two sweety wives have been hanging over the garden fence
> gossiping. I've been grafting. :-P

You were free to join us, love :-)

>
> I made this in Blender and except for the cylinder it is all text. I
> tried to use a Keltic font for the writing but the mesh sizes were
> horrendous.

Maybe with an image_map text and then extruded as height_field?

>
> Note the artefact at the horizon on the reverse? A weeks supply of
> genuine ancient almost round Tuits for the first correct solution.
> Hurry before supply outstrips demand!

Now that seems to be reflection on the reverse side, no? You can see 
that also lower down, where the checkered plane is reflected.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 26 Jan 2014 07:40:48
Message: <52e50250$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/01/2014 12:23 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 26-1-2014 11:16, Stephen wrote:
>> While you two sweety wives have been hanging over the garden fence
>> gossiping. I've been grafting. :-P
>
> You were free to join us, love :-)
>

Too busy, too busy. <Looks at watch and pops down the hole.>


>>
>> I made this in Blender and except for the cylinder it is all text. I
>> tried to use a Keltic font for the writing but the mesh sizes were
>> horrendous.
>
> Maybe with an image_map text and then extruded as height_field?
>

Of course, doing it in Pov would have been much easier. But for a while 
I am going to do everything in Blender then render it in PovRay. I am 
having to develop a different mind set.

>>
>> Note the artefact at the horizon on the reverse? A weeks supply of
>> genuine ancient almost round Tuits for the first correct solution.
>> Hurry before supply outstrips demand!
>
> Now that seems to be reflection on the reverse side, no? You can see
> that also lower down, where the checkered plane is reflected.
>


I can't put much past you. I was using an old Moray material and it had 
too high a value for reflection. Because it was at the horizon I thought 
that it looked like the artefact a SOR gives if you don't use sturm.


-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: SSLT test
Date: 26 Jan 2014 10:06:02
Message: <52e5245a$1@news.povray.org>
On 26-1-2014 13:40, Stephen wrote:
> Of course, doing it in Pov would have been much easier. But for a while
> I am going to do everything in Blender then render it in PovRay. I am
> having to develop a different mind set.

That's a good idea indeed. One thing that Silo cannot do (basically that 
is) is text. I have to import it from outside.


> I can't put much past you. I was using an old Moray material and it had
> too high a value for reflection. Because it was at the horizon I thought
> that it looked like the artefact a SOR gives if you don't use sturm.

The horizon fooled me for a second, until I saw the reflections lower 
down. Which reminds me that I have not used Moray for ages; I have not 
even it installed on my present pc. I am waiting for its future avatar 
under pov 3.7 or later. Will take a while I am sure.

Thomas


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