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From: Ive
Subject: Bad Wolf
Date: 11 Sep 2013 17:40:47
Message: <5230e35f@news.povray.org>
hi folks,

had no time for POV-Ray for about a year but todays cold and rainy 
afternoon gave me opportunity for something quick.

Based on the original construction plans from BBC Cymru Wales 2004/2005 
for the Eccleston/Tennant seasons - so all proportions of the Blue Box 
should be quite accurate.
And no, it is not bigger on the inside - POV-Ray works not well with 
Relative Dimensions In Space!

-Ive


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From: Fractracer
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 11 Sep 2013 19:10:01
Message: <web.5230f7ed1b23139d9b9924950@news.povray.org>
Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> wrote:
> hi folks,
>
> had no time for POV-Ray for about a year but todays cold and rainy
> afternoon gave me opportunity for something quick.
>
> Based on the original construction plans from BBC Cymru Wales 2004/2005
> for the Eccleston/Tennant seasons - so all proportions of the Blue Box
> should be quite accurate.
> And no, it is not bigger on the inside - POV-Ray works not well with
> Relative Dimensions In Space!
>
> -Ive

Good! And you say it's something quick???
The doctor will thank you.


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 12 Sep 2013 05:19:30
Message: <52318722$1@news.povray.org>
On 09/11/2013 05:40 PM, Ive wrote:
> hi folks,
>
> had no time for POV-Ray for about a year but todays cold and rainy
> afternoon gave me opportunity for something quick.
>
> Based on the original construction plans from BBC Cymru Wales 2004/2005
> for the Eccleston/Tennant seasons - so all proportions of the Blue Box
> should be quite accurate.
> And no, it is not bigger on the inside - POV-Ray works not well with
> Relative Dimensions In Space!
>
> -Ive
Brilliant! :-) I like it. All CSG?

Suppose you could stick a povray warp inside...

A complete aside, but I've always wondered how the wiring got to the 
actual police call boxes in the day? The boxes seem too short to safely 
drop wires to them off a pole or building.

Bill P.


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 12 Sep 2013 09:11:12
Message: <5231bd70@news.povray.org>
Am 12.09.2013 11:19, schrieb William F Pokorny:

> Brilliant! :-)
LOL. I heard immediately David Tennant's voice in my mind.

> All CSG?

Sure. Well, besides of the door handles.

It is even build in the same way a carpenter would build the real thing.
This way it was easy to get the wood textures run always in the right 
directions.

> A complete aside, but I've always wondered how the wiring got to the
> actual police call boxes in the day? The boxes seem too short to safely
> drop wires to them off a pole or building.
>
Given that the original boxes where usually mounted on a concrete base, 
I suspect the wiring came from below.

-Ive


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 12 Sep 2013 09:15:05
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Am 12.09.2013 01:08, schrieb Fractracer:
> And you say it's something quick???

Well, given that there are scenes I'm working on since years, and also 
given that in the past I've got render times measured in weeks - a scene 
that was completely done in just one afternoon with a render time of 
less than one hour is something I call quick.

-Ive


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 12 Sep 2013 15:06:37
Message: <523210B9.3020701@aol.com>
On 12/09/2013 2:11 PM, Ive wrote:

>
> It is even build in the same way a carpenter would build the real thing.
> This way it was easy to get the wood textures run always in the right
> directions.
>

Even when painted, the grain would show through?
In my youth, when I was courting my wife. Her close (tenement entrance) 
was next to a police box and a bus stop. So I had plenty of time to 
study the police box after I had seen her home. I do not remember any 
sign of a wood grain on that Tardis. Vomit and urine, yes. ;-)
Another thing I remember is that in my home city the police boxes were 
pillar box red and when Dr Who was first shown it was in B&W so red they 
always have been to me. As in my rendition in TC-RTC - British Airships 
Past, Present and Future.
Your image is near perfect except for the colour. ;-)

>> A complete aside, but I've always wondered how the wiring got to the
>> actual police call boxes in the day? The boxes seem too short to safely
>> drop wires to them off a pole or building.
>>
> Given that the original boxes where usually mounted on a concrete base,
> I suspect the wiring came from below.
>

You suspect correctly. Any external wiring would have been cut off and 
sold for scrap.


-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Fractracer
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 12 Sep 2013 17:25:01
Message: <web.523230ad1b23139d9b9924950@news.povray.org>
Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> wrote:
> Am 12.09.2013 01:08, schrieb Fractracer:
> > And you say it's something quick???
>
> Well, given that there are scenes I'm working on since years, and also
> given that in the past I've got render times measured in weeks - a scene
> that was completely done in just one afternoon with a render time of
> less than one hour is something I call quick.
>
> -Ive

Time is like the inside of the Tardis.
If I try to make a scene like this I will have work for some weeks. ;)


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 12 Sep 2013 17:41:44
Message: <52323518@news.povray.org>
Am 12.09.2013 21:06, schrieb Stephen:

> Even when painted, the grain would show through?

See attached image, a closeup of the original BBC prop.
I've used the wood grain mostly as normal-map to replicate this effect.


> In my youth, when I was courting my wife. Her close (tenement entrance)
> was next to a police box and a bus stop. So I had plenty of time to
> study the police box after I had seen her home. I do not remember any
> sign of a wood grain on that Tardis. Vomit and urine, yes. ;-)
> Another thing I remember is that in my home city the police boxes were
> pillar box red and when Dr Who was first shown it was in B&W so red they
> always have been to me. As in my rendition in TC-RTC - British Airships
> Past, Present and Future.

Ah, I remembered vaguely having seen some POV-Ray Daleks not *that* long 
ago. This was it.

> Your image is near perfect except for the colour. ;-)
>

Sure ;)  You love the "Tooth and Claw" episode from 2006 when David 
Tennant speaks in his *natural* accent, don't you?

> You suspect correctly. Any external wiring would have been cut off and
> sold for scrap.

;)

-Ive


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 13 Sep 2013 00:09:45
Message: <52329009@news.povray.org>
On 12/09/2013 10:41 PM, Ive wrote:
> Am 12.09.2013 21:06, schrieb Stephen:
>
>> Even when painted, the grain would show through?
>
> See attached image, a closeup of the original BBC prop.
> I've used the wood grain mostly as normal-map to replicate this effect.
>
>
It is very well done.
But now that you make me think of it. The police boxes of my youth were 
made of concrete. It made them harder to burn down.


>
> Ah, I remembered vaguely having seen some POV-Ray Daleks not *that* long
> ago. This was it.
>

The credit for those go to David Harris, whose Moray model can be 
downloaded here. http://www.stmuc.com/moray/memisc.html

>> Your image is near perfect except for the colour. ;-)
>>
>
> Sure ;)  You love the "Tooth and Claw" episode from 2006 when David
> Tennant speaks in his *natural* accent, don't you?
>

No, I've never seen it. I stopped watching Dr. Who by the Sylvester 
McCoy, incarnation.
Trivia: David Tennant was my wife's best friend's daughter's Sunday 
school teacher, at one time.

I did try to make my model of the Tardis de-materialise but it was not a 
success. :-(


-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Bad Wolf
Date: 13 Sep 2013 00:41:40
Message: <52329784$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:09:12 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> Trivia: David Tennant was my wife's best friend's daughter's Sunday
> school teacher, at one time.

Which connects you to Peter Davison, whose daughter married Tennant.

Jim


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