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I've been looking for ten minutes, but I still can't find Waldo. :-(
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"Halbert" <hal### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> I've been looking for ten minutes, but I still can't find Waldo. :-(
LOL!
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> For some reason, the billboard effect is a tiny bit less convincing in this
> scene, perhaps because one knows about it now... Or because the poses
> themselves are not entirely in accordance with street life (with the
> exception of the woman with the cell phone).
The cell phone woman IS excellent. Funny Thomas, my reaction was
different, I thought the 'posing' was one of the strengths here, it
seems to capture that slightly odd look of people caught unawares in a
snapshot.
Ridiculous nitpick I suppose, or the eye of a NY cab-driver, but unless
I see a double yellow line down the center of that street, I see those
cars slamming into each other. It's not something you consciously notice
as much as you feel it. Also to give it a little more NY real, you
gotta have at least one J-walker ;)
I find that the foreground trash basket in sharp relief really adds to
the realism, it's a real NY look, NY light, it rivels the scene for me.
Also I like the general look of the highrise glass buildings. The
true feel of the grunge on the street, gummarks etc., and the uniquely
NY 'casual' approach to garbage still eludes.
Maybe also a little more light in the shaded areas would help.
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RobF wrote:
> Jaime Vives Piqueres <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
>
>>:O
>>
>>...the most impressive is the street itself: at first glance I thought that
>>the people where rendered over a real street photo! Very good lighting and
>>texturing there, IMHO. ...oh, and the crowd is great too! ;)
>>
>>--
>>Jaime
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> The crowd scene was a bit of a diversion from the street scene I've been working
> on for a few months. Here's the current WIP of the rest of the street. All the
> people are billboards except for the foreground couple. Comments welcome.
>
> More images from this project are here:
> http://fitzel.ca/dart/metro/fall.html
>
> Rob.
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Excellent so far. Love the level of ambition. Did you model the Crown
Vics?
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How did you model the people?
...Chambers
"RobF" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
news:web.490675f067d4b8052d55026c0@news.povray.org...
> I've been experimenting with rendering crowds. This scene contains about
> 500
> people.
>
> Comments and crits welcome.
>
>
> Rob.
> --
> fitzel.ca/dart
>
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
news:490b3314$1@news.povray.org...
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> The cell phone woman IS excellent. Funny Thomas, my reaction was
> different, I thought the 'posing' was one of the strengths here, it seems
> to capture that slightly odd look of people caught unawares in a snapshot.
>
What I mean is that the different people seem not to be doing what people on
a street tend to do as a majority: walking purposefully towards a goal (even
if they don't have one). I get the impression that these people have been
taken from a different "environment" and dumped on the sidewalk. Now, as I
said, I may be biased because I know how the figures came to be, but still,
I keep an unconfortable out of place feeling.
However, the posing is excellent in itself!
Thomas
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On 31-Oct-08 17:32, Jim Charter wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> For some reason, the billboard effect is a tiny bit less convincing in
>> this scene, perhaps because one knows about it now... Or because the
>> poses themselves are not entirely in accordance with street life (with
>> the exception of the woman with the cell phone).
>
> The cell phone woman IS excellent.
Interesting to see so much different opinions on one simple part. To me
the cell phone woman looks like a cardboard, IMHO there is something
wrong with the aspect ratio. Most notably in the upper part of the
figure. I might be biased by knowledge, but when I first read the
comment all that remained was that the foreground people were not
cardboard. After deciding that also the phone woman looked like
cardboard I reread and saw Rob mentioned the foreground *couple*.
Question to Rob: are all cardboards perpendicular to the line of sight?
and if not did you stretch the images to correct for that angle?
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Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> RobF wrote:
> > Jaime Vives Piqueres <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
> >
> >>:O
> >>
> >>...the most impressive is the street itself: at first glance I thought that
> >>the people where rendered over a real street photo! Very good lighting and
> >>texturing there, IMHO. ...oh, and the crowd is great too! ;)
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jaime
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > The crowd scene was a bit of a diversion from the street scene I've been working
> > on for a few months. Here's the current WIP of the rest of the street. All the
> > people are billboards except for the foreground couple. Comments welcome.
> >
> > More images from this project are here:
> > http://fitzel.ca/dart/metro/fall.html
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> Excellent so far. Love the level of ambition. Did you model the Crown
> Vics?
Heavens no! I got most of the car models from here:
http://dmi.chez-alice.fr/models23.html
Rob.
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"Ben Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> How did you model the people?
>
> ...Chambers
>
> "RobF" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
> news:web.490675f067d4b8052d55026c0@news.povray.org...
> > I've been experimenting with rendering crowds. This scene contains about
> > 500
> > people.
> >
> > Comments and crits welcome.
> >
> >
> > Rob.
> > --
> > fitzel.ca/dart
> >
The people were modeled with DAZ|Studio. Each person was rendered eight times
(each time the model was rotated about 45 degrees). The rendered images were
then image_mapped onto a plane and rotated to face the camera.
More details on how the billboards were generated are here:
http://fitzel.ca/dart/crowds/crowds.html
Rob.
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Interesting to see so much different opinions on one simple part. To me
> the cell phone woman looks like a cardboard, IMHO there is something
> wrong with the aspect ratio. Most notably in the upper part of the
> figure. I might be biased by knowledge, but when I first read the
> comment all that remained was that the foreground people were not
> cardboard. After deciding that also the phone woman looked like
> cardboard I reread and saw Rob mentioned the foreground *couple*.
>
> Question to Rob: are all cardboards perpendicular to the line of sight?
> and if not did you stretch the images to correct for that angle?
Yes, the billboards are y-axis rotated to be perpendicular to the camera.
However, what you may have noticed is that the person was rendered with an
orthographic projection (which was easier to setup that a perspective
projection).
I experimented with a perspective projection which gave a more three dimensional
appearance, IMHO.
I've attached an image for comparison
More info about the billboards is here:
http://fitzel.ca/dart/crowds/crowds.html
Thanks for the feedback!
Rob.
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