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And before I go there is one more thing.
I just wanted to see the project move along and who better to do it than someone
with the kind of time I have. Not being a slave to ego affords me this luxury.
But there are always those who will do anything and everything to stop progress.
To those competitors I say: Just because you been working with POV since day one
creativity of a Menorian frigate rat.
If these twits think I care enough to read their attempt at distraction and
petty chicken scratch rather than accomplish something, HAH!
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<sigh> There's no need to be insulting, AQ.
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:51:17 -0500, alphaQuad wrote:
> But there are always those who will do anything and everything to stop
> progress.
If you think that was my goal, you are sadly, sadly mistaken. I wouldn't
even know what progress I am supposedly stopping, because I don't
understand what the whole discussion was about to begin with. That was
the point of the question - you're assuming that I have a clue (or anyone
does) as to what your goals were or anything like that. I didn't, and I
tried to help you understand that.
That you refused to believe that and instead want to believe that
everyone's "against you" for some reason and wants to halt your progress
tells me that you really need to examine your goals; you simply have been
misunderstood here and those of us who have tried to get more information
from you about what you are looking for have met resistance.
For my part, I just wanted to understand what your goals were so I could
give you constructive feedback. I still have no idea what you were
looking for when you asked for feedback, and I'm sorry that you are
failing to understand the situation.
Best of luck to you in whatever it was you were trying to do. Seriously,
don't give up because you misinterpreted what my (or anyone's) intentions
were here.
Jim
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dlm wrote:
> For those as confused as I am, this image seems to be a follow on from the
> image thread started by AQ in this NG a month ago - 3 Nov.
> There were better images of the same scene then, but the current image may
> be constrained by the obscure requirements of the end user / customer /
> target audience. This makes for a fascinating study of design process in a
> group.
I'll go on record here to say I really liked the one with the huge moon,
and blueish sky. That was a really nice image. It was, of course missing
the floating poser model...
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alphaQuad wrote:
> And before I go there is one more thing.
>
> I just wanted to see the project move along and who better to do it than someone
> with the kind of time I have. Not being a slave to ego affords me this luxury.
It appears that you may have lost the battle with ego ...
> But there are always those who will do anything and everything to stop progress.
> To those competitors I say: Just because you been working with POV since day one
> creativity of a Menorian frigate rat.
What competitors? Where? Was the image for some competition? And you're
absolutely right, I do have the creativity of a Menorian frigate rat. I
know what is aesthetically pleasing to me, though.
> If these twits think I care enough to read their attempt at distraction and
> petty chicken scratch rather than accomplish something, HAH!
I'm not quite sure I understand this statement. What are we attempting
to distract you from? You solicited opinions, you received opinions.
Several don't understand the purpose of the image (including me). I gave
you my opinion of the image under the impression that it was a splash
screen for some custom build of POV-Ray (One that does anaglyphs, I
assume) I didn't think it would work from a design standpoint. I didn't
think it appealed to a wide enough audience. Hence my question about
intended audience, and my remark that it would only appeal to the PFY
(PFY, btw was a reference to the BOFH series, as seen on The Register;
not an insult) crowd, which you took as a personal affront.
You simply cannot expect to come here, be cryptic about what you want
and not be asked to clarify you goals with the image. It's unfortunate
that you feel the community as a whole is working against you, I can
assure you that is not the case.
You asked us to critique an image. Several members offered an honest
critique, you became defensive.
If you cannot take criticism, don't ask for it.
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:33:10 -0600, Mike Raiford wrote:
> dlm wrote:
>> For those as confused as I am, this image seems to be a follow on from
>> the image thread started by AQ in this NG a month ago - 3 Nov. There
>> were better images of the same scene then, but the current image may be
>> constrained by the obscure requirements of the end user / customer /
>> target audience. This makes for a fascinating study of design process
>> in a group.
>
> I'll go on record here to say I really liked the one with the huge moon,
> and blueish sky. That was a really nice image. It was, of course missing
> the floating poser model...
Yes, I liked that one as well - and in looking over other posts AQ made,
I have to say that I really like the images he's generated in the past,
which is why the drop in quality seems to me to be intentional, but I
cannot for the life of me figure out why he's done that. I wish he'd
tell us more, because I'm really curious as to what the intention was
with this image.
Jim
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A thought came to me on wings.
I thought back, ya know you're right.
It is loved and hated for the same reason.
Its really good, so I am goin' with it.
Spirit is masculine.
If you have a soul, that soul is THE feminine part of you.
Accept it or alienate your soul. Poor closet gays.
Those of us who have a soul are all sisters.
She always worries that she's too masculine. I tell her,
Zappa offers advice:
"Go ahead be creative, just be prepared to have people hate you for what you
create"
Well right about that time, people
A fur trader, who was strictly from commercial
(Strictly Commercial)
Had the unmitigated audacity to jump up form behind my igloo
(Peakaboo!)
And started into whippin' on my favorite baby seal
With a lead filled snowshoe!
That got me just about as evil as an Eskimo boy can be
So I bent down and I reached down and I scooped down
And I gathered up a generous heap of the deadly
(Yellow Snow!)
The deadly yellow snow from right there where the huskies go
Where upon I proceeded to take that mitten full
Of the deadly yellow snow crystals
And rub it all into his beady little eyes with a vigorous circular motion
Hitherto unknown to by people in this area but destined
To take the place of the mud shark in your mythology
Here it goes now, the circular motion...
Rub it!
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this image, and a lot of your other images, look like every object has an
ambient of 1 (or at least a high ambient), with a very low contrast as a
result. Other than that, I'm afraid I have to agree with other people: it's
not interesting enough to be an effective splash-screen.
I'm sure you can do better
cu!
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#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*C/50#end#macro _(b,e,k,l)#local C=0;#while(C<50)
sphere{G(b,e)+3*z.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1;
#end#end _(y-x,y,x,x+y)_(y,-x-y,x+y,y)_(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)_(-y,y,y+z,x+y)
_(0x+y.5+y/2x)_(0x-y.5+y/2x) // ZK http://www.povplace.com
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:20:28 -0500, alphaQuad wrote:
> A thought came to me on wings.
I like it - I wish I knew where my red/blue 3D glasses were so I could
see the offsets. I'll bet that looks cool. :-)
Jim
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you seem to be on crack. Who the hell is Paul B? This is a splash screen to
what? besides, it doesn't look all that good: too flat illumination relying
on too much ambient and the composition of a poser model and geometric figure
float atop a plane simulating water is not exactly creative. Get a grip before
insulting everyone who felt like offering advice for your original call for
comments.
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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> you seem to be on crack. Who the hell is Paul B? This is a splash screen to
> what? besides, it doesn't look all that good: too flat illumination relying
> on too much ambient and the composition of a poser model and geometric figure
> float atop a plane simulating water is not exactly creative. Get a grip before
> insulting everyone who felt like offering advice for your original call for
> comments.
Indeed. I'm as confused as everyone else. If the OP would have only written his
request using non-cryptic language as to what he wanted, he would have gotten
better answers than for what he was looking for. As far as the image stands, I
have to agree with some of the sentiments of others: composition is ok, 8-bit
color is not ok, colors look a little flat.
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