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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 10 Mar 2004 15:07:59
Message: <ultu401h0mk78rrvifk6tdnvs23f1m364s@4ax.com>
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:11:25 -0800, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
wrote:

>> Thing is, does being stupid in that one thing make you stupid in general?
>
>In his defence I think IMBJR's referring specifically to how people conduct
>themselves when posting on this newsgroup, and he is not implying this extends
>to how intelligent these people are in general.

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From: Tek
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 10 Mar 2004 23:47:45
Message: <404fef71$1@news.povray.org>
> That's like saying im lemon when it comes to tact, or fishburger, or
> housetree or coupon when it comes to tact. Meaningless!

Well, tact does require intelligence. Ergo saying "you're stupid when it comes
to tact", whilst grammatically a little odd, is a perfectly meaningful
statement. Personally I'd use the word "bad" or possibly simplify the whole
thing to be "tactless", but the meaning is still clear.

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"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:34:09 -0600, "Dan P" <dan### [at] yahoocom>
> wrote:
>
> >"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
> >news:ml9s40pbquu74smg1ka7d7klvqbqhqg1s0@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:36:27 -0800, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
> >> >news:dmop40lc06i3hvs7jedlt2jj4p74e992st@4ax.com...
> >> >> >>     I appreciate the work that goes into them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >heh, thank you for that considered and informative opinion. ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> I think he was referring to the work I put in them. Taking credit for
> >> >> my effort is yet another sign of the stupidity I see in this group.
> >> >
> >> >Okay: point 1 - don't call me stupid.
> >>
> >> Re-read. I refered to the group in general as stupid ("stupidity I see
> >> in this group"). If you take that as directed at you personally then
> >> you did so off your own bat.
> >
> ><and so forth />
> >
> >Wow, I'm catching up more on these threads and this is interesting.
> >Everybody is stupid in something, like Scott Adams said. For example, many
> >would have a case to say IMBJR that you're stupid when it comes to tact.
> >Thing is, does being stupid in that one thing make you stupid in general?
>
> That's like saying im lemon when it comes to tact, or fishburger, or
> housetree or coupon when it comes to tact. Meaningless!
>
> >
>
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From: Tek
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 11 Mar 2004 02:14:14
Message: <405011c6$1@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:404bc6bc@news.povray.org...
>     I appreciate the work that goes into them.

Well I've downloaded Irfanview. So I've seen the pictures. And I now have an
opinion on them:
Trying to be tactful... let's just say that the choice of compression methods is
unlikely to significantly lower the quality of these images...

:-/
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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 11 Mar 2004 15:18:57
Message: <qki1501epqmvkeuedbec6odu4iivb0shcv@4ax.com>
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:47:55 -0800, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
wrote:

>> That's like saying im lemon when it comes to tact, or fishburger, or
>> housetree or coupon when it comes to tact. Meaningless!
>
>Well, tact does require intelligence. 

No, just blind following of some social pattern. No intelligence
required in that.

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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 11 Mar 2004 15:19:34
Message: <omi150hrhsfku8m7t0d44v335tv7gdqnc3@4ax.com>
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:14:24 -0800, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
wrote:

>"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:404bc6bc@news.povray.org...
>>     I appreciate the work that goes into them.
>
>Well I've downloaded Irfanview. So I've seen the pictures. And I now have an
>opinion on them:
>Trying to be tactful... let's just say that the choice of compression methods is
>unlikely to significantly lower the quality of these images...

LOL

I hope that was as honest as you can be. I can imagine a little bias
may have crept in, esp' if you are using so-called tact.

>
>:-/

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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 11 Mar 2004 19:32:34
Message: <40510522@news.povray.org>
"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:34:09 -0600, "Dan P" <dan### [at] yahoocom>
> wrote:

<snip />
> >Wow, I'm catching up more on these threads and this is interesting.
> >Everybody is stupid in something, like Scott Adams said. For example,
many
> >would have a case to say IMBJR that you're stupid when it comes to tact.
> >Thing is, does being stupid in that one thing make you stupid in general?
>
> That's like saying im lemon when it comes to tact, or fishburger, or
> housetree or coupon when it comes to tact. Meaningless!

Heh, that reminds me of Good Will Hunting when, after his new girlfriend
asked him out for coffee. He responded that we could just go out for
caramels because it was just as arbitrary :-)

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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 11 Mar 2004 19:36:42
Message: <4051061a@news.povray.org>
"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:47:55 -0800, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
> wrote:
>
> >> That's like saying im lemon when it comes to tact, or fishburger, or
> >> housetree or coupon when it comes to tact. Meaningless!
> >
> >Well, tact does require intelligence.
>
> No, just blind following of some social pattern. No intelligence
> required in that.

True. We all have to look at things objectively as well as subjectively and
seek to understand first before we judge. One of the things that really
annoy me is when somebody proves some thing right and then extrapolates to
say it proves everything else right. Just as an example (and for no other
reasons but being an example), let's say that a particular event in the book
of Revelations in the bible happens. Some would then say, "See, see that
proves the entire Bible is correct!" That is a falacious argument. It would
be like saying, "Because IMBJR has poor tact at this time in his life, his
work isn't good either." That would be unfair and, as IMBJR said, "stupid".
Some of the greatest men in history would really piss us off if we met them
in person. :-)

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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 11 Mar 2004 19:40:59
Message: <4051071b@news.povray.org>
"Dan P" <dan### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> "IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
> news:qki1501epqmvkeuedbec6odu4iivb0shcv@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:47:55 -0800, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >> That's like saying im lemon when it comes to tact, or fishburger, or
> > >> housetree or coupon when it comes to tact. Meaningless!
> > >
> > >Well, tact does require intelligence.
> >
> > No, just blind following of some social pattern. No intelligence
> > required in that.
>
> True. We all have to look at things objectively as well as subjectively
and
> seek to understand first before we judge. One of the things that really
> annoy me is when somebody proves some thing right and then extrapolates to
> say it proves everything else right. Just as an example (and for no other
> reasons but being an example), let's say that a particular event in the
book
> of Revelations in the bible happens. Some would then say, "See, see that
> proves the entire Bible is correct!" That is a falacious argument. It
would
> be like saying, "Because IMBJR has poor tact at this time in his life, his
> work isn't good either." That would be unfair and, as IMBJR said,
"stupid".
> Some of the greatest men in history would really piss us off if we met
them
> in person. :-)

Er, I'm saying that we should seperate our perception of his work from our
interpretation of his work here. I'm not making a judgement on the work
itself. :-)

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From: Tek
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 11 Mar 2004 22:55:40
Message: <405134bc$1@news.povray.org>
"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
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> LOL

:)

> I hope that was as honest as you can be. I can imagine a little bias
> may have crept in, esp' if you are using so-called tact.

Yeah, I confess more than a little bias. I was in a bad mood last night (not
just 'cause of you! the real world has been annoying me as well, fedex suck
ass).

Anyway, I'm gonna stop bitching and return to my usual mode of making serious
comments on images:

This image (we_meat, in case anyone's forgotten what thread they're reading!)
has a really cool concept. I'd suggest the materials could be improved, at
present they look a bit plastic. A lot of povvers have experimented with more
realistic skin materials so you could try some of those (unfortunately I don't
have a link to any).

Also the crackle pattern in the meat is a little obvious, and has no relation to
human anatomy. Although maybe you shouldn't go that route because making this
image look realistic would make it quite horrifying!

Finally I'd suggest using more realistic lighting and setting, e.g. maybe have
the background setup to look like a meat locker?

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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: we meat - redux [16-bit JPEG2000]
Date: 12 Mar 2004 14:30:01
Message: <3q3450loghnp3utnlh5bj0hudt0jb5j4iv@4ax.com>
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:55:52 -0800, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
wrote:

>"IMBJR" <no### [at] spamhere> wrote in message
>news:omi150hrhsfku8m7t0d44v335tv7gdqnc3@4ax.com...
>> LOL
>
>:)
>
>> I hope that was as honest as you can be. I can imagine a little bias
>> may have crept in, esp' if you are using so-called tact.
>
>Yeah, I confess more than a little bias. I was in a bad mood last night (not
>just 'cause of you! the real world has been annoying me as well, fedex suck
>ass).
>
>Anyway, I'm gonna stop bitching and return to my usual mode of making serious
>comments on images:
>
>This image (we_meat, in case anyone's forgotten what thread they're reading!)
>has a really cool concept. I'd suggest the materials could be improved, at
>present they look a bit plastic. A lot of povvers have experimented with more
>realistic skin materials so you could try some of those (unfortunately I don't
>have a link to any).
>
>Also the crackle pattern in the meat is a little obvious, and has no relation to
>human anatomy. Although maybe you shouldn't go that route because making this
>image look realistic would make it quite horrifying!

Yes, perhaps the poorest part of it all. I think there's a way of
replacing it with genuine body slice images, but there's quite some
fiddling around with the applicable applet to get it to work.

>
>Finally I'd suggest using more realistic lighting and setting, e.g. maybe have
>the background setup to look like a meat locker?

As a sort of rule, I usually do not do as it were realistic settings.

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