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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 8 Oct 2004 14:03:51
Message: <4166d687@news.povray.org>

ck5l69$ike$1@chho.imagico.de...
>
> Well - the smoke looks a bit crude, tried to extract it from the
> satellite images which of course do not give any height information.
> The smoke is from september 4, the texture image composed from the last
> few weeks to make it cloud free.
>
> See also:
>
> http://modis.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/individual.php?db_date=2004-10-06
>
Hey ! you signed to be the 1st SpaceShipOne space tourist before Richard
Branson? (who can believe he did not want to be the 1st?)
Your Geo renders are more and more incredible!

Marc


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 8 Oct 2004 16:10:02
Message: <ck6s63$qa6$1@chho.imagico.de>
Marc Jacquier wrote:
> Your Geo renders are more and more incredible!
> 

Thanks!

Another render can be found on:

http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/pov/pict/mtsthelens2.jpg

Christoph

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 8 Oct 2004 16:10:03
Message: <ck6s6h$qa7$1@chho.imagico.de>
Darren New wrote:
> 
>> http://modis.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/individual.php?db_date=2004-10-06
> 
> 
> Just for comparison:
> http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/

Interesting, but that does not tell you much how it looks like from 20km 
height... ;-)

Christoph

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From: Yadgar
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 8 Oct 2004 18:55:02
Message: <41671ac6$1@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann wrote:

> 
> Well - the smoke looks a bit crude, tried to extract it from the 
> satellite images which of course do not give any height information. The 
> smoke is from september 4, the texture image composed from the last few 
> weeks to make it cloud free.

Stunning... and obviously, the 3-arcsecond DEMs for the USA don't 
contain those ugly data gaps I noticed with the Eurasia files (for 
example the Kabul area) - or do they in fact exist even in the DEMs you 
used, and you just somehow interpolated the missing data?

See you in Khyberspace - 
http://home.arcor.de/yadgar/khyberspace/index-e.html
Afghanistan Chronicle: http://home.arcor.de/yadgar/
Home-made electronic music: http://home.arcor.de/yadgar/music

Yadgar

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From: jute
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 11 Oct 2004 10:55:00
Message: <web.416a9e1b18a3a04b67c1c3ff0@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> Well - the smoke looks a bit crude, tried to extract it from the
> satellite images which of course do not give any height information.
> The smoke is from september 4, the texture image composed from the last
> few weeks to make it cloud free.

Christoph,

your system, while arguably still not perfect (the LOD could be worked on),
is simply amazing.  The geometry rendering is one thing, but your
atmosphere and lighting are incredible as well.  The whole thing has some
insane educational value -- at least your recent earth images sure sparkle
*my* imagination far better than any map I saw in school.  How long are the
current rendering times?

--
jussi.kantola


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 11 Oct 2004 11:10:01
Message: <cke7ms$3pg$1@chho.imagico.de>
jute wrote:
> 
> Christoph,
> 
> your system, while arguably still not perfect (the LOD could be worked on),

What's the problem about that?  Of course the data resolution is limited 
but that's something i can hardly influence.

> is simply amazing.  The geometry rendering is one thing, but your
> atmosphere and lighting are incredible as well.  The whole thing has some
> insane educational value -- at least your recent earth images sure sparkle
> *my* imagination far better than any map I saw in school.  How long are the
> current rendering times?

Thanks, render time for the first one was quite slow (because of the 
smoke) - the second one was much better optimized and rendered in 4-5 
hours (2400x1800).

Christoph

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From: jute
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 11 Oct 2004 12:20:00
Message: <web.416ab1fa18a3a04b67c1c3ff0@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>
> What's the problem about that?  Of course the data resolution is limited
> but that's something i can hardly influence.

I was referring to you planet rendering system in general; the seams are
clearly visible in a few pictures, although the St. Helens image is very
good.  Of course it also depends on the field of view.  From your pages I
understood your techinque already uses intepolated transition zones between
hi and lo detail areas -- is it just that some images don't utilize this
feature (for example, earth_kilimanjaro1.jpg)?

How much pre-processing these images require?  Can you have the global
height/texture data 'as is' on the disc, and have your modded pov-ray
selecting which parts to actually read into memory?

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jussi.kantola


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 11 Oct 2004 13:15:02
Message: <ckeet6$52a$1@chho.imagico.de>
jute wrote:
> 
> I was referring to you planet rendering system in general; the seams are
> clearly visible in a few pictures, although the St. Helens image is very
> good.  Of course it also depends on the field of view.  From your pages I
> understood your techinque already uses intepolated transition zones between
> hi and lo detail areas -- is it just that some images don't utilize this
> feature (for example, earth_kilimanjaro1.jpg)?

The kilimanjaro pictures are meant to illustrate that there are 
different data sets combined so the visible transit is intentional.  I 
doubt there are visible seams in any of the other images at the size 
they are on the website.

> How much pre-processing these images require?  Can you have the global
> height/texture data 'as is' on the disc, and have your modded pov-ray
> selecting which parts to actually read into memory?

The images are just prepared in the required size and then used in 
POV-Ray.  I don't understand why you would need to modify POV-Ray for that.

Christoph

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From: tommy
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 12 Oct 2004 05:00:00
Message: <web.416b9c7718a3a04b5ff2b5e50@news.povray.org>
> The kilimanjaro pictures are meant to illustrate that there are
> different data sets combined so the visible transit is intentional.  I
> doubt there are visible seams in any of the other images at the size
> they are on the website.

Could we have the URL link of the kilimanjaro render.

Thanks


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens, smoking [153k]
Date: 12 Oct 2004 05:10:01
Message: <ckg6qf$fu7$1@chho.imagico.de>
tommy wrote:
> 
> Could we have the URL link of the kilimanjaro render.

http://www.tu-bs.de/%7Ey0013390/pov/earth2.html

Christoph

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