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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 26 Sep 2000 15:30:50
Message: <MPG.143b0989339451179897ed@news.povray.org>
I've been playing with glows and radiosity though Moray (Thanks to Keith 
Hull for the plugin) and this is what happened after I got carried 
away...

All lighting is done through glows without light sources and using 
radiosity, with a total of 21 glows in the scene.

The image started off as just the sofa (well, I call it a sofa, it's only 
four cubes with appropriate transformations, and I wouldn't want to sit 
on it myself :) in a white box.

Then I added the Left hand standard light thing as a quick tweak.  Then 
came the right hand light.  Then the coffee table.  Then the blueish 
light source out of shot as a TV simulation.  Then the white box I'd been 
using as an area light went, to be replaced by an array of glows.  And 
then finally, from somewhere, came the idea of the floating eyeballs...

And the only textures in the scene which aren't a plain white are the two 
textures on the eyeballs.

Any comments?  But bear in mind that this was designed to keep rendering 
times to a minimum while I played with glows, although the (currently) 
final render did use some pretty ludicrous settings.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 26 Sep 2000 16:51:28
Message: <39D10C77.83E3E662@spiritone.com>
I would like to see some more done with this. I like the idea a lot. Some
suggestions:

Keep the light source inside the TV, but place an image map in front of it
with some screenshot with added transparency.
The way the front of the "cushion" is set makes me think it could easilty
become a mouth, along the lines of the Aardman animation "Not without my
handbag." (I can't find a screenshot, sorry)

A bit more anthropomorphication on the couch, add a couple of empty chip
bags, and you've got a fun scene.

Josh

Jamie Davison wrote:

> I've been playing with glows and radiosity though Moray (Thanks to Keith
> Hull for the plugin) and this is what happened after I got carried
> away...
>
> All lighting is done through glows without light sources and using
> radiosity, with a total of 21 glows in the scene.
>
> The image started off as just the sofa (well, I call it a sofa, it's only
> four cubes with appropriate transformations, and I wouldn't want to sit
> on it myself :) in a white box.
>
> Then I added the Left hand standard light thing as a quick tweak.  Then
> came the right hand light.  Then the coffee table.  Then the blueish
> light source out of shot as a TV simulation.  Then the white box I'd been
> using as an area light went, to be replaced by an array of glows.  And
> then finally, from somewhere, came the idea of the floating eyeballs...
>
> And the only textures in the scene which aren't a plain white are the two
> textures on the eyeballs.
>
> Any comments?  But bear in mind that this was designed to keep rendering
> times to a minimum while I played with glows, although the (currently)
> final render did use some pretty ludicrous settings.
>
> Bye for now,
>      Jamie.
>
>  [Image]

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eng### [at] spiritonecom
The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 26 Sep 2000 17:21:56
Message: <MPG.143b23da880a6c009897ee@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:52:07 -0700, Josh English wrote...
> I would like to see some more done with this. I like the idea a lot. Some
> suggestions:
> 
> Keep the light source inside the TV, but place an image map in front of it
> with some screenshot with added transparency.

I cheated.  There *is* no TV, just a blueish glow :)  But it may be 
worth doing..

> The way the front of the "cushion" is set makes me think it could easilty
> become a mouth, along the lines of the Aardman animation "Not without my
> handbag." (I can't find a screenshot, sorry)
> 
> A bit more anthropomorphication on the couch, add a couple of empty chip
> bags, and you've got a fun scene.

I was looking at the image after I posted it, and realised that since 
there were no well defined shadows from the eyes, it wasn't possible to 
tell exactly where they were...  In fact, they're floating in midair 
above the couch.

I was thinking more along the lines of empty pizza boxes and coke bottles 
to fill out the scene myself... <grin>

Thanks for the comments.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Wolfgang Manousek
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 26 Sep 2000 17:22:34
Message: <39d1139a$1@news.povray.org>
I like it a lot, especially the simple design of the scene, just the bare
essential

The pair of eyes needs to get more visibility. perhaps add a glow close to
them ...

"Jamie Davison" <jam### [at] dh70qdu-netcom> wrote in message
news:MPG.143b0989339451179897ed@news.povray.org...
> I've been playing with glows and radiosity though Moray (Thanks to Keith
> Hull for the plugin) and this is what happened after I got carried
> away...
>
> All lighting is done through glows without light sources and using
> radiosity, with a total of 21 glows in the scene.
>
> The image started off as just the sofa (well, I call it a sofa, it's only
> four cubes with appropriate transformations, and I wouldn't want to sit
> on it myself :) in a white box.
>
> Then I added the Left hand standard light thing as a quick tweak.  Then
> came the right hand light.  Then the coffee table.  Then the blueish
> light source out of shot as a TV simulation.  Then the white box I'd been
> using as an area light went, to be replaced by an array of glows.  And
> then finally, from somewhere, came the idea of the floating eyeballs...
>
> And the only textures in the scene which aren't a plain white are the two
> textures on the eyeballs.
>
> Any comments?  But bear in mind that this was designed to keep rendering
> times to a minimum while I played with glows, although the (currently)
> final render did use some pretty ludicrous settings.
>
> Bye for now,
>      Jamie.
>
>


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 26 Sep 2000 19:40:18
Message: <slrn8t2850.jnb.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
This is fantastic. 

-- 
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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 27 Sep 2000 14:09:22
Message: <MPG.143c4833ee8c1c279897ef@news.povray.org>
On 26 Sep 2000 19:40:18 -0400, Steve wrote...
> This is fantastic. 

No, that was a semi inspired accident :)

Oh, and if by some chance anybody wants the source (in either Moray .mdl 
if you have the glow plugin, or moray exported .pov), then feel free to 
ask.

One thing that I may get round to doing is a quick animation, with the 
blue light source flickering...

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 27 Sep 2000 19:44:57
Message: <slrn8t4pf8.lt5.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:09:33 +0100, Jamie Davison wrote:
>
>One thing that I may get round to doing is a quick animation, with the 
>blue light source flickering...

If you sit behind the TV for a while and watch the flicker you'll notice
that it starts flickering really fast while the adverst are on and returns
back to slow colour sweeps when the program resumes.  

Does everyone else already know this or have I just been raytracing too long?

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 27 Sep 2000 20:52:20
Message: <39d29644@news.povray.org>
"Steve" <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain...
| On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:09:33 +0100, Jamie Davison wrote:
| >
| >One thing that I may get round to doing is a quick animation, with the
| >blue light source flickering...
|
| If you sit behind the TV for a while and watch the flicker you'll notice
| that it starts flickering really fast while the adverst are on and returns
| back to slow colour sweeps when the program resumes.
|
| Does everyone else already know this or have I just been raytracing too
long?

Watching TV too long at least.  Commercials are usually fast-paced, same as
action parts of movies.  I've seen a lot of slow commercials too, usually a
cleaning product or food item I guess.

Bob


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From: ian
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 28 Sep 2000 10:38:01
Message: <39d357c9@news.povray.org>
:)
Exported pov please. :)

ian

Jamie Davison wrote in message ...
>*if you have the glow plugin, or moray exported .pov), then feel free >to
ask.*


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Watching too much TV... (42Kbu) - tv_watcher.jpg [1/1]
Date: 28 Sep 2000 14:36:14
Message: <MPG.143d9fb668dc724d9897f1@news.povray.org>
On 27 Sep 2000 19:44:57 -0400, Steve wrote...
> >One thing that I may get round to doing is a quick animation, with the 
> >blue light source flickering...
> 
> If you sit behind the TV for a while and watch the flicker you'll notice
> that it starts flickering really fast while the adverst are on and returns
> back to slow colour sweeps when the program resumes.  
> 
> Does everyone else already know this or have I just been raytracing too long?

It may be similar to an effect you can get from watching the reflections 
from a swimming pool on a wall or other suitable surface.  If you focus 
on them, then they seem to speed up and slow down, regardless of what's 
happening in the pool.  In my case I get an occasional lurch in my 
stomach as my brain is trying to convince my semi-lunar canals that I'm 
actually moving.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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