On 30/09/2011 3:13 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 30-9-2011 16:11, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> About gamma: I am not sure. If I reproduce your test, I see those parts
>> of the scene that are in direct sunlight (Linger's skin and the corner
>> stones wall mainly) that remain lighter longer.
>
> ....and yes, Lingyi's scabbard. Which is just a pigment with some higher
> specular values.
>

That's fine as that is what I see too.
Just thought I'd mention it.


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On 9/30/2011 4:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> This is how I want it.

Sweet.  I do like how you've managed to capture the balance of the 
characters. Most such scenes come out looking very stilted.

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Am 30.09.2011 16:11, schrieb Thomas de Groot:

> About gamma: I am not sure. If I reproduce your test, I see those parts
> of the scene that are in direct sunlight (Linger's skin and the corner
> stones wall mainly) that remain lighter longer.

... which, by the way, is perfectly normal.

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Am 30.09.2011 13:48, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> This is how I want it.

Looking better and better.

BTW, are you using Poser or Daz 3D models? And what shoes are the ladies 
wearing? I've been searching for such shoes for quite a while without 
success - virtually all 3D models out there are either high heels or 
sneakers.

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> This is how I want it.
>
> 2-pass render with a scattering media, but without area light in the
> second pass. Still +3hours render time with 6 threads. With an area
> light I judge from testing that render time would be multiplied by 10.
>
> Thomas

Coming along nicely.

As for the area light, adaptive is a must. Start with adaptive 0, and 
increase to adaptive 1 or 2 only if you have disturbing artefacts.
Looking at the actual scene, it's probable that adaptive 0 will be 
correct, with, maybe, some pixel sized glitches near the torch holder on 
the wall.

Most of the time, with adaptive 0, the time hit is barely larger than 4, 
even with high density arays like 17 * 17, 33 * 33 or 65 * 65.

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On 1-10-2011 4:08, Alain wrote:
>
> As for the area light, adaptive is a must. Start with adaptive 0, and
> increase to adaptive 1 or 2 only if you have disturbing artefacts.
> Looking at the actual scene, it's probable that adaptive 0 will be
> correct, with, maybe, some pixel sized glitches near the torch holder on
> the wall.
>
> Most of the time, with adaptive 0, the time hit is barely larger than 4,
> even with high density arays like 17 * 17, 33 * 33 or 65 * 65.

Excellent suggestion. I was using adaptive 1, but I might indeed get 
away with adaptive 0.

Thomas

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On 30-9-2011 18:25, Darren New wrote:
> On 9/30/2011 4:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> This is how I want it.
>
> Sweet. I do like how you've managed to capture the balance of the
> characters. Most such scenes come out looking very stilted.
>
Thank you indeed. I always painstakingly try to get the most natural 
looking characters, which means very subtle changes in body pose and - 
most of all - in facial expression. It takes a fair amount of time in 
Poser but it is worth it. And it pushes one to study human nature ;-)

Thomas

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On 30-9-2011 20:32, clipka wrote:
> Am 30.09.2011 13:48, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> This is how I want it.
>
> Looking better and better.

Thank you indeed. I shall let it rest now for a while. I might come back 
with some improvements in the near future.

>
> BTW, are you using Poser or Daz 3D models? And what shoes are the ladies
> wearing? I've been searching for such shoes for quite a while without
> success - virtually all 3D models out there are either high heels or
> sneakers.

  I am using Poser 7 and 8; mostly 8 now but for some characters like 
KelvinG2 and KojiG2 - which are later additions to Poser 7 - I use that 
version.

These conforming slippers come with Poser 8's Alyson character (which 
Izumi variant is the basis for the two female characters here).

I agree about the available shoes in Poser. I have not yet tried to make 
my own conforming shoes (or clothes for that matter). That is something 
on my todo list for quite a while already.

Thomas

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On 30-9-2011 14:29, Stephen wrote:
> On 27/09/2011 7:53 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> By the way, the latest Poseray solution for dynamic hair is quite
>> satisfying (cylinders instead of sheets). I am working on a beard and
>> hair for my Beggar and the main concern now is to get a satisfying
>> texture. I shall show some results soon.
>
> Please do. I can't seem to find any reasonable settings in either Poser
> or PoseRay except for cornrows.
>
A couple of things you should do after reaping the corn ;-)

1) In Poser: Before exporting, adjust the Hair Density to your needs, 
and check Show Population (very important!).

2) In Poseray: Convert Lines to Tubes: set Minimum Line Length to 0; set 
Root diameter to 0.01; set Tip Diameter to 0.001.

3) In Poseray: Only export the tube_groups to POV-Ray, not the Lines 
(switch those off in the Group Menu).

With this you have a working basis from which to experiment on.

Thomas

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On 01/10/2011 8:32 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:

> A couple of things you should do after reaping the corn ;-)
>
> 1) In Poser: Before exporting, adjust the Hair Density to your needs,
> and check Show Population (very important!).
>
> 2) In Poseray: Convert Lines to Tubes: set Minimum Line Length to 0; set
> Root diameter to 0.01; set Tip Diameter to 0.001.
>
> 3) In Poseray: Only export the tube_groups to POV-Ray, not the Lines
> (switch those off in the Group Menu).
>
> With this you have a working basis from which to experiment on.
>

Thanks, I never set Show Population so that might be one of the problems.

I will waste some more time. :-D


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