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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 07:39:01
Message: <4981a365$1@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
>> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy 
>> government
>> turd-sandwiches
> 
> That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.
> 
> I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug 
> offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less 
> harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing 
> though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a 
> snail's pace.
> 
> It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But 
> the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot 
> of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(
> 
> Sam

Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 13:24:57
Message: <4981f479$1@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/

Worse, I've let the topic stray into realms unsuitable for family 
viewing. I'll remove my post if the mods want me to. I really don't want 
to offend people.

Sam


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 15:25:00
Message: <web.49820f707624d145776dbc490@news.povray.org>
Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
> > alphaQuad wrote:
> >> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy
> >> government
> >> turd-sandwiches
> >
> > That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.
> >
> > I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug
> > offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less
> > harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing
> > though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a
> > snail's pace.
> >
> > It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But
> > the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot
> > of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(
> >
> > Sam
>
> Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/



handle. Where's all those great pictures you've rendered and posted. I do
better looking stuff than you can imagine and more often that anyone else.
Trolls only twist reality into some self-serving tool of manipulation has you
clearly do well. There's mirror in your bathroom, you do have a bathroom? Meet
a real troll. U POS

Sam is obviously the most intelligent person on this board, but your
manipulation of him is by far the most "trollie" thing I've seen yet.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 04:28:49
Message: <4982c851$1@news.povray.org>
I am coming in late to comment, but RL you know... :-(
This is an excellent example of what can be done with your proximity macro. 
I nerver thought about this possibility, and it opens a couple of 
interesting windows. I shall have to jump deeper; I just have skimmed the 
surface obviously...

Sam, you should hire a *code editor* it seems  :-)

Thomas


"stbenge" <^@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht 
news:497e6bb6@news.povray.org...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I run a lot of tests over here, though very few ever make it to the
> public. I figured this image was worth posting, even if it is unfinished.
>
> Grass, rocks. The rocks are a single height_field, tested and created
> using a crackle form chart I devised some time ago, and should post
> someday. I gave the HF a proximity pattern, which I then used to give it
> a more interesting texture.
>
> The grass is a clump composed of a single mesh which was copied, rotated
> and translated randomly. The clumps were placed upon the HF using
> trace(), and only appear in cracks. This was accomplished using the
> aforementioned proximity pattern.
>
> I'm pretty happy with the way it's turning out, and hope to add
> something to make the scene more interesting. Coyote scat would be
> relevant, but I'm not sure about the appropriateness of adding that :)
>
> Comments and questions are always welcome, though I'm not too sure about
> releasing the code, which is a mess.
>
> Sam
>


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 17:35:00
Message: <web.49837fb47624d145fd0f18610@news.povray.org>
stbenge <^@hotmail.com> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.
>
> Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)
>
> > Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
> >
> > Find a source for Ampakines yet?
> >
> > http://www.nootropics.com/refs/
>
> I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be
> messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and*
> antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death.
> Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs
> affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to
> potentially damning information regarding ampakines:
>
>
http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html

How many times do hear the FDA lie to me before I stop believing.?????

Analysis: Ampakines potentiate neurotransmission at AMPA-type glutamate
receptors, enhance arousal and attention, and have shown potential

suggests to me that there may be evidence that CX717 had some neurotoxic
effects. Overexcitation of AMPA-type glutamate receptors have been shown to
cause cell death.

I need the results from a second unbiased observer before I can believe things
the FDA says.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 19:43:41
Message: <49839ebd$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad nous illumina en ce 2009-01-30 17:31 -->
> stbenge <^@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> alphaQuad wrote:
>>> Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.
>> Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)
>>
>>> Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
>>>
>>> Find a source for Ampakines yet?
>>>
>>> http://www.nootropics.com/refs/
>> I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be
>> messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and*
>> antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death.
>> Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs
>> affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to
>> potentially damning information regarding ampakines:
>>
>>
http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html
> 
> How many times do hear the FDA lie to me before I stop believing.?????
> 
> Analysis: Ampakines potentiate neurotransmission at AMPA-type glutamate
> receptors, enhance arousal and attention, and have shown potential
> neuroprotective effects. The FDA’s denial, based on animal toxicity studies,
> suggests to me that there may be evidence that CX717 had some neurotoxic
> effects. Overexcitation of AMPA-type glutamate receptors have been shown to
> cause cell death.
> 
> I need the results from a second unbiased observer before I can believe things
> the FDA says.
> 
Many times, the do those animal tests using HUGE amounts of a given substance. 
They give about 1 gram a day to mice. Given that a mice weight at 20 to 30 
grams, For a 200 pounds man, it's akind of taking 10 pounds of the stuff per 
day, for several years... Then, they detect a 1 to 5% increase in cancers in the 
mice. They thus brand it as carcinogen and bann it.

The product is intended to be used as food coloring, and, in the worst case, 
nobody could take more than 0.1 gram a day, and probably not every day.
How about eating 10 pounds of the yellow-5 food colourant in a day?

Or, the product is NOT to be taken internaly at all, but they still feed mice 
with it. How about eating 10 pounds of hand soap or body lotion in a day?

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
Islam: If shit happens, blame Israel.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 23:30:01
Message: <web.4983d3887624d145fd0f18610@news.povray.org>
Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> alphaQuad nous illumina en ce 2009-01-30 17:31 -->
> > stbenge <^@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> alphaQuad wrote:
> >>> Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.
> >> Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)
> >>
> >>> Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
> >>>
> >>> Find a source for Ampakines yet?
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nootropics.com/refs/
> >> I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be
> >> messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and*
> >> antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death.
> >> Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs
> >> affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to
> >> potentially damning information regarding ampakines:
> >>
> >>
http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html
> >
> > How many times do hear the FDA lie to me before I stop believing.?????
> >
> > Analysis: Ampakines potentiate neurotransmission at AMPA-type glutamate
> > receptors, enhance arousal and attention, and have shown potential
> > neuroprotective effects. The FDA’s denial, based on animal toxicity studies,
> > suggests to me that there may be evidence that CX717 had some neurotoxic
> > effects. Overexcitation of AMPA-type glutamate receptors have been shown to
> > cause cell death.
> >
> > I need the results from a second unbiased observer before I can believe things
> > the FDA says.
> >
> Many times, the do those animal tests using HUGE amounts of a given substance.
> They give about 1 gram a day to mice. Given that a mice weight at 20 to 30
> grams, For a 200 pounds man, it's akind of taking 10 pounds of the stuff per
> day, for several years... Then, they detect a 1 to 5% increase in cancers in the
> mice. They thus brand it as carcinogen and bann it.
>
> The product is intended to be used as food coloring, and, in the worst case,
> nobody could take more than 0.1 gram a day, and probably not every day.
> How about eating 10 pounds of the yellow-5 food colourant in a day?
>
> Or, the product is NOT to be taken internaly at all, but they still feed mice
> with it. How about eating 10 pounds of hand soap or body lotion in a day?
>
> --
> Alain
> -------------------------------------------------
> Islam: If shit happens, blame Israel.


Alain, you are awesome. I think I've mentioned the delightful sound of your
handle. It is a pleasure to hear from you. Your remarks show you are one of the
intelligent ones.

But I will not take crap off of Kyle or anyone, sorry you all had to see that,
unless you enjoy someone getting their just deserts. And I am not talking about
me. What must be done in a case like this is often offensive to me, but I have a
stronger penchant to tell the truth about what I see in such disrespectful
people as Kyle.

Again, all apologies for reality (a reality I cannot apologize for) and all my
appreciation to the mentally gifted, gifted enough to see the horrifying
reality of the creepy, greedy, dominating, heartless, profiteering FDA DEA etc.
A truth some fools on this board want to silence.

Wish I could say more, there is so much I would say, Dear Alain


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 31 Jan 2009 03:11:52
Message: <498407c8$1@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
news:web.497f80d67624d145971e62b30@news.povray.org...
>
> Well, I guess it's more an algorithm for distributing objects randomly on 
> an
> infinite plain... :P
>

Especially blob objects I understand...

Thomas


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 31 Jan 2009 21:15:54
Message: <498505da@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I am coming in late to comment, but RL you know... :-(
> This is an excellent example of what can be done with your proximity macro. 
> I nerver thought about this possibility, and it opens a couple of 
> interesting windows. I shall have to jump deeper; I just have skimmed the 
> surface obviously...

Thanks for the reply. I was gone for a day, so I missed it. Yeah, 
there's a bunch of things you can use proximity functions for besides 
texturing. More possibilities than I know...

> Sam, you should hire a *code editor* it seems  :-)

Sure, I can pay that person with virtual dollars ;)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 11 Feb 2009 10:14:32
Message: <4992eb58$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad escreveu:
> Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>> Many times, the do those animal tests using HUGE amounts of a given substance.
>> They give about 1 gram a day to mice. Given that a mice weight at 20 to 30
>> grams, For a 200 pounds man, it's akind of taking 10 pounds of the stuff per
>> day, for several years... Then, they detect a 1 to 5% increase in cancers in the
>> mice. They thus brand it as carcinogen and bann it.

Poor mice.

> Again, all apologies for reality (a reality I cannot apologize for) and all my
> appreciation to the mentally gifted, gifted enough to see the horrifying
> reality of the creepy, greedy, dominating, heartless, profiteering FDA DEA etc.
> A truth some fools on this board want to silence.

Poor food colourant addict bastard.  I see your pain.


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