alphaQuad nous illumina en ce 2009-01-30 17:31 -->
> stbenge <^@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> alphaQuad wrote:
>>> Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.
>> Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)
>>
>>> Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
>>>
>>> Find a source for Ampakines yet?
>>>
>>> http://www.nootropics.com/refs/
>> I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be
>> messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and*
>> antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death.
>> Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs
>> affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to
>> potentially damning information regarding ampakines:
>>
>>
http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html
> 
> How many times do hear the FDA lie to me before I stop believing.?????
> 
> Analysis: Ampakines potentiate neurotransmission at AMPA-type glutamate
> receptors, enhance arousal and attention, and have shown potential
> neuroprotective effects. The FDA’s denial, based on animal toxicity studies,
> suggests to me that there may be evidence that CX717 had some neurotoxic
> effects. Overexcitation of AMPA-type glutamate receptors have been shown to
> cause cell death.
> 
> I need the results from a second unbiased observer before I can believe things
> the FDA says.
> 
Many times, the do those animal tests using HUGE amounts of a given substance. 
They give about 1 gram a day to mice. Given that a mice weight at 20 to 30 
grams, For a 200 pounds man, it's akind of taking 10 pounds of the stuff per 
day, for several years... Then, they detect a 1 to 5% increase in cancers in the 
mice. They thus brand it as carcinogen and bann it.

The product is intended to be used as food coloring, and, in the worst case, 
nobody could take more than 0.1 gram a day, and probably not every day.
How about eating 10 pounds of the yellow-5 food colourant in a day?

Or, the product is NOT to be taken internaly at all, but they still feed mice 
with it. How about eating 10 pounds of hand soap or body lotion in a day?

-- 
Alain
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