Slime nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/17 04:18:
> Wow, interesting. I get a lot of requests for that image and I usually ask
> people to put my address on it somewhere, but I don't remember them asking.
> It's cool that they liked the image that much but I do prefer when people
> ask, you know? Is that a big commercial magazine or something?
> 
>  - Slime
>  [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
> 
> 
I don't think that it have a large circulation. It's a magazine published by an 
hospital, and most of those are almost only distributed to the personel and 
available to the patients when in the hospital. Probably available in the 
waiting rooms.

-- 
Alain
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One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people.

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> I don't think that it have a large circulation. It's a magazine published
by an
> hospital, and most of those are almost only distributed to the personel
and
> available to the patients when in the hospital. Probably available in the
> waiting rooms.

Oh, I see.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

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Alain wrote:
> I don't think that it have a large circulation. It's a magazine
> published by an hospital, and most of those are almost only distributed
> to the personel and available to the patients when in the hospital.
> Probably available in the waiting rooms.

  Unless the image has been explicitly published with a permissive usage
license, that's still technically copyright infringement.

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Warp nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/18 10:27:
> Alain wrote:
>> I don't think that it have a large circulation. It's a magazine
>> published by an hospital, and most of those are almost only distributed
>> to the personel and available to the patients when in the hospital.
>> Probably available in the waiting rooms.
> 
>   Unless the image has been explicitly published with a permissive usage
> license, that's still technically copyright infringement.
I agree with you. But, that kind of magazine is rarely sold, so that greatly 
limit the liability. Note that there are NO price apearing on that cover.
I would contact the hospital concerned and see what can be done. Possibility: 
publish an apology for not having properly asked the permition to use the image, 
to appears in the next edition. Maybe with some finantial compensation added, 
but don't take that for granted.
The key is to be polite in the message.

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Alain
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You know you've been raytracing too long when your source files are starting to 
get bigger than the image files.
     -- Matt

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No, as Alain think, it's a free magazine available in the waiting rooms,
mainly for patients and clinicians.
I agree with Warp remarks: the afternoon I took the magazine, and the
evening I wrote a mail to Hospital customer service demanding them to advise
their press office to print the source of their covers and asking them about
publishing permissions. Usually Hospital customer service replies to mail, I
will report you when it'll happen.

;-)
Paolo



> "Slime" <fak### [at] emailaddress> wrote:
> Wow, interesting. I get a lot of requests for that image and I usually ask
> people to put my address on it somewhere, but I don't remember them
asking.
> It's cool that they liked the image that much but I do prefer when people
> ask, you know? Is that a big commercial magazine or something?
>
>  - Slime
>  [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
>
>

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"Paolo Gibellini" <p.g### [at] teinoscom> wrote:
> ... the afternoon I took the magazine, and the
> evening I wrote a mail to Hospital customer service demanding them to advise
> their press office to print the source of their covers and asking them about
> publishing permissions. Usually Hospital customer service replies to mail, I
> will report you when it'll happen.
>
> ;-)
> Paolo




I am no lawyer but doesn't a release without use stipulation constitute a public
domain item?



The words look very Spanish or Mexican looking. Par for the course IMHO.

trust me.

aQ

What's wrong with the world? Infinite apathy and narcissistic selfishness born
in the suffering and punishing negative influence. Get out of that line, ya
think?.

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"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
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> "Paolo Gibellini" <p.g### [at] teinoscom> wrote:
> > ... the afternoon I took the magazine, and the
> > evening I wrote a mail to Hospital customer service demanding them to
advise
> > their press office to print the source of their covers and asking them
about
> > publishing permissions. Usually Hospital customer service replies to
mail, I
> > will report you when it'll happen.
> >
> > ;-)
> > Paolo
>
>
>
>
> I am no lawyer but doesn't a release without use stipulation constitute a
public
> domain item?
>

no.

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"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> ... Anyone without a "silver spoon" has had a difficult time,
> trust me.
>
> aQ
>
> What's wrong with the world? Infinite apathy and narcissistic selfishness born
> in the suffering and punishing negative influence. Get out of that line, ya
> think?.


on that note it was once put to me: there are 1st world countries and 3rd world
countries. Wait! What happened to 2nd world? Well in their superiority trip
they thought 2nd world sounded too close to their "1st world".

The Negative ego payoffs are complete (synergy) as follows:


1. Avoiding responsibility or the truth
2. Self-pity/poor me
3. Righteousness/martyrhood/punishment
4. Holding out for guarantees that I wont be hurt before I will love or trust
5. Self-Importance/competition/superiority
6. Blame
7. Clinging to the past

where 4 is the core and 1,2,3 mirror and reflect 7,6,5 respectively (lower and
higher octave)

aQ,
still "fixing" the world (in vain)

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"Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote:

> >
> > I am no lawyer but doesn't a release without use stipulation constitute a
> public
> > domain item?
> >
>
> no.



in that case SUE SUE SUE, I could be kidding, I am not sure.

I forgot to mention the previous vain post on ego payoffs is COPYRIGHTED
material.

Dont ya just love to hate this world?

I was in selfish violation of the copyright by using it in a vain attempt to
make my world a more comfortable place! Personal profit all the way!

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alphaQuad wrote:
> I am no lawyer but doesn't a release without use stipulation constitute a public
> domain item?

  In international copyright agreements, as well as in the local
copyright laws of most countries *all* works are automatically under
copyright without the need to specify it explicitly. No license means
you can't use that work, period.

  As for releasing under "public domain", few countries even have that
notion in their law at all, except in the form "50 (or so) years after
the death of the author it becomes public domain" and "all government
documents are in the public domain unless specifically stated
otherwise". Usually those two cases are the *only* ones where works fall
in public domain. Most copyright laws don't have the concept of the
author "releasing something to public domain" at all. "Public domain" is
synonym for "has no copyright", which is often not supported by law.
Pieces of work will have copyright no matter what the author says.
  What the author can and should do is to release it under a completely
permissive usage license. That doesn't remove the copyright from the
work, however.

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