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Ger wrote:
> Alain wrote:
>
>> Ger nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/07/29 01:07:
>>>
>>> Just one thing in the composition that bugs me is the free hanging
>>> piece of metal in the lower left picture. All the others seem to
>>> sprout from the bottom except for that one bit.
>>
>> The piece just apears to be free hanging. Look at the bottom right
>> part: ther's a piece that reatch under another. In the left part, it
>> emerge from behind that one, only with a highlight that make it fade
>> in the bachground.
>>
> Okay, gotcha.
> I obviously didn't see it that way. Maybe an idea to make that just a
> tad more visible.
Hmm, I'll look into it. I can see that it almost looks like it's free
hanging.
Rune
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Excellent work indeed!
Thanks!
> The brown of the stems is still a bit odd maybe... I don't know,
> perhaps a tiny bit of green mixed to it will do the job?
Green doesn't work well. A *little* green added to brown just makes it more
yellow and makes it look even more unhealthy. It's all brown or all green,
nothing in between, and green doesn't work for me here (I've tried - it
ruins the feel I want to create).
However, I'm experimenting with other more healthy looking shades of brown.
Rune
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Ger wrote:
> I love the overall composition, really well done.
Thanks!
> Having been a professional welder, those welds look stunningly real.
I'm glad to hear that! I've been working mostly from reference images.
> I do have a little iffi about how the metal looks. If it's new it's
> more shiny, if it's old it's looks more "gritty". The welds suggest
> it's aluminum and then the surface should be a duller gray-ish gritty
> surface.
Hmm. It's been difficult for me to find good reference images of metal up
very close. I'm definitely going for "new". How do you mean that new metal
is more shiny? Overall, I'm satisfied with the metal myself though at this
point.
> The flowers...DNTA (Do Not Touch Anymore) simply brilliant.
:)
> Not to sure about how the stems look.
I'm experimenting with a better texture for the stems.
> Just one thing in the composition that bugs me is the free hanging
> piece of metal in the lower left picture. All the others seem to
> sprout from the bottom except for that one bit.
As indicated in other posts, it's not hanging. I've changed the piece so
that this is a bit more clear to see.
Rune
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Rune wrote:
>> I do have a little iffi about how the metal looks. If it's new it's
>> more shiny, if it's old it's looks more "gritty". The welds suggest
>> it's aluminum and then the surface should be a duller gray-ish gritty
>> surface.
>
> Hmm. It's been difficult for me to find good reference images of metal up
> very close. I'm definitely going for "new". How do you mean that new metal
> is more shiny? Overall, I'm satisfied with the metal myself though at this
> point.
>
Because of the shape I would say it's extruded aluminum. Have a look at
these pics. They sorta show the shinyness I was talking about.
Search for "aluminum extrustions"
http://216.183.126.109:443/mfgq_live/uploads/profiles/Samples2_126923.jpg
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11853617/Aluminum_Extrusion_Profiles.jpg
Because of the extrusion process this kind of aluminum has a "brushed" look
to it.
>
>> Just one thing in the composition that bugs me is the free hanging
>> piece of metal in the lower left picture. All the others seem to
>> sprout from the bottom except for that one bit.
>
> As indicated in other posts, it's not hanging. I've changed the piece so
> that this is a bit more clear to see.
I found the other post clarifying it
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"Rune" <new### [at] runevisioncom> schreef in bericht
news:46ae1342$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> The brown of the stems is still a bit odd maybe... I don't know,
>> perhaps a tiny bit of green mixed to it will do the job?
>
> Green doesn't work well. A *little* green added to brown just makes it
> more yellow and makes it look even more unhealthy. It's all brown or all
> green, nothing in between, and green doesn't work for me here (I've
> tried - it ruins the feel I want to create).
>
> However, I'm experimenting with other more healthy looking shades of
> brown.
>
I totally agree.
In fact, what I was thinking about (to make my intention clearer) was to
have some thin, greenish, traces inside the overall brown texture and along
the stems. But that might also ruin your intention/vision. You will come up
with just the perfect solution, I am sure :-)
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> In fact, what I was thinking about (to make my intention clearer) was
> to have some thin, greenish, traces inside the overall brown texture
> and along the stems.
Well that is interesting actually. I'm already doing just that, only with
white instead of green. I didn't find any reference images of stems where
brown and green is mixed, but I'll look into the possibility.
> But that might also ruin your intention/vision.
> You will come up with just the perfect solution, I am sure :-)
I hope so. :)
Rune
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"Rune" <new### [at] runevisioncom> schreef in bericht
news:46af0589$1@news.povray.org...
> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> In fact, what I was thinking about (to make my intention clearer) was
>> to have some thin, greenish, traces inside the overall brown texture
>> and along the stems.
>
> Well that is interesting actually. I'm already doing just that, only with
> white instead of green. I didn't find any reference images of stems where
> brown and green is mixed, but I'll look into the possibility.
>
I think that white will indeed work better for your image. My green
suggestion is probably based on the twig/bark transition that you can see in
young trees or in young branches. As an afterthought, this would not be so
realistic in your case.
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
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> I think that white will indeed work better for your image. My green
> suggestion is probably based on the twig/bark transition that you can see in
> young trees or in young branches.
THere are also the thorny and berry type plants that have green/red combined
http://delta-intkey.com/angio/images/bmag69.jpg
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