No problem, I need to get used to the fact that "model" has about 7
different meanings here. :-)
Thanks for the info! I hope to be able to mess around with poser one day,
but for now, I only use POV for work and it's not likely I'm gonna be able
to talk them in to buying it for me ;-)

-OpPl

"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> "OpalPlanet" <ecs### [at] msncom> wrote in message
> news:web.46bce6ab1951ecc08c488cdf0@news.povray.org...
> > Actually, what I meant was the "human" models - the ones wearing the
> > jewelery. :-) I really like whatever "texture" you used for the skin.
>
>       LOL! Ok, How was that for a bit of self-egotism?  ;o)  Grasshopper,
> your path lies in the form of a program called Poser5 (Judy) and the texture
> is a very simple:
>
>       pigment{ colour Black}
>       finish{ reflection .035 phong 1}
>
>
>
>            ~Steve~
>
>
>
> > -OpPl

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"OpalPlanet" <ecs### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
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> No problem, I need to get used to the fact that "model" has about 7
> different meanings here. :-)


       Heh, that's true... :o)


> Thanks for the info! I hope to be able to mess around with poser one day,
> but for now, I only use POV for work

  Using POV for work is 'good'. :o)   I've found myself using it many, many 
times now.


and it's not likely I'm gonna be able
> to talk them in to buying it for me ;-)

     If it's beneficial for your job, why not? I think it was about a year 
ago(?) that it (Poser5) became free, and everyone scrambled to download it, 
including myself. It opens up a whole new dimension in 3D art.

        ~Steve~


>
> -OpPl

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>
>      If it's beneficial for your job, why not? I think it was about a year
> ago(?) that it (Poser5) became free, and everyone scrambled to download it,
> including myself. It opens up a whole new dimension in 3D art.
>
>         ~Steve~
>

Well, it's not technically beneficial for my job, as I work for a planetary
science research institute. So, the only things I'm modelling for them are
stars, planets, moons, etc. :-)

However, I would love to have Poser to play around with myself, but I can't
seem to find a download link for 5. Do you have one? All the links I can
find redirect to Poser7, and I don't get paid enough for the stars and
planets stuff to buy that... :-)

- OpPl

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> schreef in bericht news:46bb32e3@news.povray.org...
>
>>
>> My crystallography courses are so far behind me that I don't remember the 
>> name of the special mirror symmetry you have used in the horizontal part 
>> of the necklace. Not that it matters, but it nags the rusty ball bearings 
>> of my mind so to speak...
>
>      It's called 'Flip' in Wings...  ;o)
>
>      Seriously, I wasn't aware of such a term, so I'll look into that.
>
Oh, well... not exactly a term or name actually, iirc, it was a code 
involving 'rotation' and 'mirroring'...
Never mind! Just get on with this excellent work, Steve!

Thomas

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"OpalPlanet" <ecs### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
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>
>>
>>      If it's beneficial for your job, why not? I think it was about a 
>> year
>> ago(?) that it (Poser5) became free, and everyone scrambled to download 
>> it,
>> including myself. It opens up a whole new dimension in 3D art.
>
> Well, it's not technically beneficial for my job, as I work for a 
> planetary
> science research institute. So, the only things I'm modelling for them are
> stars, planets, moons, etc. :-)

       Cool job!

>
> However, I would love to have Poser to play around with myself, but I 
> can't
> seem to find a download link for 5. Do you have one? All the links I can
> find redirect to Poser7, and I don't get paid enough for the stars and
> planets stuff to buy that... :-)

     No, I don't unfortunately. Contentparadise.com ran a four day campaign 
last year, where P5 was a free download. I haven't checked to see whether 
any of the previous Poser versions are available or not, but it might be 
worth exploring that avenue.

       ~Steve~


>
> - OpPl
>

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> St. wrote:
>>         Hey Sam, first of all, that is fantastic!
>
> Thanks! I found a magic rotation number for dodecahedrons: 31.7.
> Accurate enough for stuff like this.

     Ok, I'll remember that.  :)


>
>> But, I couldn't figure out how to use your code with the Wings method 
>> that I use. So I came up with a different version that I've been working 
>> on continuously. Please see the attached and let me know what you think.
>
> Why wouldn't it work with Wings models? I usually have to "find and
> replace" all the texture instances in my imported mesh objects. A second
> option is to edit the texture file itself. I use PoseRay.

    Well, it would work with Wings models, I know this, but I'm embarrassed 
to say that don't know 'how'. I mean, how would I put,

     #declare golden = <1.0, 0.8, 0.4>;

    in the PoseRay materials file when there is already a #declare, 
<pigment - whatever>, declared, so to speek?



>
> That design is fantastic! It would make the perfect wedding ring for my
> girlfriend. It resembles vines and berries, both of which carry
> signifigance for her.

     Then you have met the right jeweller Sam.   :)


>
> That bracelet is even better yet. It looks more golden that the ring for
> some reason.

       Yes, I can't figure that out either...



>
>>        Secondly, (and it should have been first), I'm *so sorry* that I 
>> haven't replied any sooner, and I really appreciate your advice. I think 
>> you know that. I don't mean to be rude in not replying, it's just that 
>> I've had some serious home problems lately although it may not look like 
>> it by myself posting around the groups recently.
>>
>>    Heck, you know what I mean.
>
> I couldn't possibly know exactly what you are going through, but I've
> been through some nasty sh!t myself. You can always e-mail me if you
> need someone to talk to. We could even chat on ICQ, meebo, or whatever.


    I'll email...


>>>>(especially since we can find our own gold up here in the Gold
>>>>>Country!).
>
>>>>   Lucky you! Send some my way!  :o)
>>>Well, It's hard work finding the gold, and I haven't found too much. I'm
>>>not out there every day though, panning the creeks and traversing
>>>treacherous mines. I live too far up the hill, and all the placer
>>>deposits seem to occur below 1500-200 feet elevation. I live at 4500'+.
>
>>       If there are any big rocks in the stream/river, dig deep *in front* 
>> of the rocks. It's those rocks that stop the big nuggets.  ;)
>>       Try to use a fishing 'Bait Pump' too, very useful. Fill some 
>> buckets, and take them home to siv.  ;)
>
> That's how my uncle found a pennyweight's worth of gold one summer. In
> front of large rocks, with a turkey baster to vaccum the sediments. (he
> later melted it all down into an ingot, left it to cool on a concrete
> floor and then stepped on it, burning a nasty circle into his foot)
>

     Argh! Not good. 'Black Heat' is still *very* hot. Hope he's ok... 
Really.



> The creek I pan in is right in town. It would be a disturbace of the
> peace to use a pump or dredge right there in town. A turkey baster is
> inexpensive and quiet. :)
>
> Funny, I had a dream about gold last night. It was off-yellow...
> practially white.  It formed wire bundles. Pretty neat.


      Oh, that would be 9ct White gold then... Yes, when polished, it looks 
white, but when it gets to its natural patina, it will have a good tint of 
yellow.



>
> I'll have to get myself some jewelry-making materials here pretty soon.
> A friend of mine sent a large amount of gems my way recently.
> Touramline, topaz, kunzite (sp?), *beatiful*, clear labradorite, amber,
> cut gems with minor flaws (citrine, amethyst, something resembling
> zoistite), and more. All in return for some website work. Soooo, if you
> want to trade materials.... give me a write.

    Yes, sure, email on its way soon Sam.


>
> Again, nice jewelry work!


       Thank you.


      ~Steve~


>
> Sam

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St. wrote:
>     Well, it would work with Wings models, I know this, but I'm embarrassed 
> to say that don't know 'how'. I mean, how would I put,
> 
>      #declare golden = <1.0, 0.8, 0.4>;
>     in the PoseRay materials file when there is already a #declare, 
> <pigment - whatever>, declared, so to speek?

It seems to me you just replace the texture with your own.... you could 
post a code snippit of the materials file here so I can see it's 
structure, if you want.

>> That design is fantastic! It would make the perfect wedding ring for my
>> girlfriend. It resembles vines and berries, both of which carry
>> signifigance for her.
> 
>      Then you have met the right jeweller Sam.   :)

I am a ways off from needing such a ring just yet...

>> front of large rocks, with a turkey baster to vaccum the sediments. (he
>> later melted it all down into an ingot, left it to cool on a concrete
>> floor and then stepped on it, burning a nasty circle into his foot)
> 
>      Argh! Not good. 'Black Heat' is still *very* hot. Hope he's ok... 
> Really.

It's actually been years since this happened. It was just a superficial 
wound.

>> The creek I pan in is right in town. It would be a disturbace of the
>> peace to use a pump or dredge right there in town. A turkey baster is
>> inexpensive and quiet. :)
>>
>> Funny, I had a dream about gold last night. It was off-yellow...
>> practially white.  It formed wire bundles. Pretty neat.
> 
>       Oh, that would be 9ct White gold then... Yes, when polished, it looks 
> white, but when it gets to its natural patina, it will have a good tint of 
> yellow.

I went to the creek two days ago, and had luck with the turkey-basting 
syringe-type thing. Vaccumed a series of cracks and found three good 
nuggets, one covered in mercury. Lots of lead, too. I plan on going 
again tomorrow, to finish the job if I can.

Sam

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> wrote in message
> news:web.46bc0ffc1951ecc0c4e49fa40@news.povray.org...
> > "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>       Oh, wow, thank you guys! It just spurs me on...  :o)
> >>
> >>        Here's a necklace.  :o)
> >>
> >>         ~Steve~
> >>
> >
> > You're just showing off now :-)
>
>      LOL!

If you've got it, flaunt it :-)

>
> > How did you get your placement of the pendant and chain?
>
>    With great difficulty... ;)  Actually, the pendant was ok, but with the
> chain, I combined four links as one model and then duplicated and rotated
> each model against the bust - even doing that was hard though.
>

I can imagine. My first animation involved a chain and I remember how
painstakingly difficult it was.

>
> I can't see any
> > floating or intersection with the model. The reflection of the chain on
> > the
> > model shows that the chain stops at the edge of the picture (top right as
> > you look at it), so a little tweak there and it's perfect.
>
>     Heh, you have better eyesight than me Stephen! :o) Thanks for pointing
> it out, I didn't notice it.
>

I doubt the better eyesight thing but I have the advantage of having had to

Another tip, and it is an old photographers one, is to turn the image
upside down. This makes any image that has things your brain recognizes,
unfamiliar and you can look at it without your brain filling in details
that are not there.

> >
> > I've now got your bracelet on my desktop.
>
>      Really? Cool, I don't think anyone has used something of mine as a
> desktop.
>
>        ~Steve~  (mood: happy)  :o)
>



Stephen

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> "OpalPlanet" <ecs### [at] msncom> wrote in message
> news:web.46bd5ad01951ecc08c488cdf0@news.povray.org...
> >
> >>
> >>      If it's beneficial for your job, why not? I think it was about a
> >> year
> >> ago(?) that it (Poser5) became free, and everyone scrambled to download
> >> it,
> >> including myself. It opens up a whole new dimension in 3D art.
> >
> > Well, it's not technically beneficial for my job, as I work for a
> > planetary
> > science research institute. So, the only things I'm modelling for them are
> > stars, planets, moons, etc. :-)
>
>        Cool job!
>

Thanks!

> >
> > However, I would love to have Poser to play around with myself, but I
> > can't
> > seem to find a download link for 5. Do you have one? All the links I can
> > find redirect to Poser7, and I don't get paid enough for the stars and
> > planets stuff to buy that... :-)
>
>      No, I don't unfortunately. Contentparadise.com ran a four day campaign
> last year, where P5 was a free download. I haven't checked to see whether
> any of the previous Poser versions are available or not, but it might be
> worth exploring that avenue.
>
>        ~Steve~
>
>
Well, I can't seem to find any of them. :-( Too bad, I'll just have to get a
better paying job next summer so I can afford it. :-)
-OpPl

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> "OpalPlanet" <ecs### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
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>>>      If it's beneficial for your job, why not? I think it was about a 
>>> year
>>> ago(?) that it (Poser5) became free, and everyone scrambled to download 
>>> it,
>>> including myself. It opens up a whole new dimension in 3D art.
>> Well, it's not technically beneficial for my job, as I work for a 
>> planetary
>> science research institute. So, the only things I'm modelling for them are
>> stars, planets, moons, etc. :-)
> 
>        Cool job!
> 
>> However, I would love to have Poser to play around with myself, but I 
>> can't
>> seem to find a download link for 5. Do you have one? All the links I can
>> find redirect to Poser7, and I don't get paid enough for the stars and
>> planets stuff to buy that... :-)
> 
>      No, I don't unfortunately. Contentparadise.com ran a four day campaign 
> last year, where P5 was a free download. I haven't checked to see whether 
> any of the previous Poser versions are available or not, but it might be 
> worth exploring that avenue.
> 
	Or you might want to check DazStudio: http://www.daz3d.com/

		Jerome
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