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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 08:52:30
Message: <43e3601e@news.povray.org>
"Ger" <No.### [at] ThankYou> schreef in bericht
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> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> > A new version of the Alien Cliff.
> > Added have been: cloud, waterfall, "birds".
> > This time, a larger version. Slow rendering (about 36 hours in total)
> > especially for the lower half of the image.
> >
> > I am curious about any comments of course!
> >
> > Thomas
>
> Looks very good... You really got the "huge-ness" factor in there now.
>
> Just one nitpick, I think the lensflare is too big, too there.
>
Thanks a lot!! That lensflare is definitely causing trouble at this stage
:-)  Will have to be corrected!!

Thomas


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 13:19:11
Message: <43e39e9f@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot spake:

> A new version of the Alien Cliff.
> Added have been: cloud, waterfall, "birds".
> This time, a larger version. Slow rendering (about 36 hours in total)
> especially for the lower half of the image.
> 
> I am curious about any comments of course!
> 
> Thomas

Excellent! Looks like some painting by Jon Lomberg from the book Cosmos by
Carl Sagan... very conceivably an alien landscape.

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 13:30:15
Message: <43e3a137$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> A new version of the Alien Cliff.
> Added have been: cloud, waterfall, "birds".
> This time, a larger version. Slow rendering (about 36 hours in total)
> especially for the lower half of the image.
> 
> I am curious about any comments of course!
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
Yes, I think you are taking it in the right direction.  I think adding 
more elements improves this picture.  Moving the balloon closer adds a 
lot.  Allows us to mentally "enter" the scene.  The waterfall is a great 
element but needs work yet I feel.  I question its placement.  Too close 
to the center of the composition and it cuts the cliff edge right next 
to where the moon cuts the cliff edge.  And I question its realness.  It 
really needs to suggest falling water in order to emphasize the sense of 
height of the cliff. I think there needs to be a sense of the water 
breaking up and vapourizing as it falls.  Where ever you put it, it is 
going to be an attention getting element in the scene and as such will 
need to be spot on.  I think the hazy clouds might be too much.  Maybe 
make them more of a hint?


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 13:36:20
Message: <43e3a2a4$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:

> 
> The yellow lit area comes from the background height_field. It is in fact
> one of the used texture colors. Was not deliberate and is, IMO, too visible.
>
I love that part!


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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 14:42:04
Message: <43e3b20c@news.povray.org>
> The washed-out look comes mainly from the ground fog. I am not too
> displeased with that as it is intentional for the landscape. The cliff for
> instance is much sharper / neater than the landscape under some kind of
> tropical blanket. But everything can certainly be tweaked more indeed!

How on earth do you "tweak" an image that takes 36 *hours* to render? o__O

Sheesh... you have way more patients than me!

(Not, of course, that I consider this a BAD thing... You seem to have 
produced a pretty cool image as a result.)


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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 14:46:03
Message: <43e3b2fb$1@news.povray.org>
> This time, a larger version. Slow rendering (about 36 hours in total)
> especially for the lower half of the image.

Eeeps! o__O

I'd offer you render power... but it's kind of impractical. Soz. :-/

> I am curious about any comments of course!

I think the mist is maybe a little OTT.

Perhaps make it more patchy, or make it hug the surface more closely or 
something... I'm not sure. You'd have to play with it...

I really do like those plants though.


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From: stm31415
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 18:50:01
Message: <web.43e3eb0b220a2816b3eb90420@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> A new version of the Alien Cliff.
> Added have been: cloud, waterfall, "birds".
> This time, a larger version. Slow rendering (about 36 hours in total)
> especially for the lower half of the image.
>
> I am curious about any comments of course!
>
> Thomas

Very pretty.

My main problem with the waterfall is not hte way it looks (though it would
be nicer if you worked on that) but is it's geological effect on the
surroundings. It seems to have had no effect whatsoever on the cliff.
Either put a dent in the cliff (hard?) or move and scale the waterfall so
as to place it in an extant dent.

-s
5TF!


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 3 Feb 2006 18:50:01
Message: <web.43e3eb6f220a28162a868be00@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> A new version of the Alien Cliff.
> Added have been: cloud, waterfall, "birds".
> This time, a larger version. Slow rendering (about 36 hours in total)
> especially for the lower half of the image.
>
> I am curious about any comments of course!
>
> Thomas


This is looking really good and is better than the earlier post, I like the
balloon it helps to give scale to the rest of the image, also I agree with
the many comments about the bottom of the waterfall. At first I wasn't so
keen on the colours but the more I look at it the more I like the 'washed
out' look, it makes it look less rendered and more like a painting/drawing.

At 36 hours I wouldn't fancy turning on radiosity..

Great work.

Sean


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 4 Feb 2006 02:18:08
Message: <43e4552f@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v2 spake:

>> The washed-out look comes mainly from the ground fog. I am not too
>> displeased with that as it is intentional for the landscape. The cliff
>> for instance is much sharper / neater than the landscape under some kind
>> of tropical blanket. But everything can certainly be tweaked more indeed!
> 
> How on earth do you "tweak" an image that takes 36 *hours* to render? o__O
> 
> Sheesh... you have way more patients than me!
> 
> (Not, of course, that I consider this a BAD thing... You seem to have
> produced a pretty cool image as a result.)

Hey! I've got a trace of something I didn't design (I just modified it)
which has been running about 600+ hours so far...

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Alien Cliff...again [~150kB]
Date: 4 Feb 2006 03:23:01
Message: <43e46465@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
news:43e3a2a4$1@news.povray.org...
> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> >
> > The yellow lit area comes from the background height_field. It is in
fact
> > one of the used texture colors. Was not deliberate and is, IMO, too
visible.
> >
> I love that part!

Well... I am not sure. However, it may be considered the equivalent of  "le
petit pan de mur jaune" (the little piece of yellow wall) that Marcel Proust
writes about when describing the View of Delft by Vermeer.
Yes. Now that I think about it, I shall leave it as a statement!

Thanks Jim, for starting up my brains again!

Thomas


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