> >> Yikes! One can see you're definitely European.
> >
> > How is that?
>
> A bit of a lame joke I admit. I visited Europe in the 90's and, coming
from
> a very conservative society (white South Africa) was amazed at the openess
> most Europeans (especially the French and Italians) had about sex and
> sexually related stuff. That was what I was refering to.

Hm, really? When I was in the U.S. a few years back, I was amazed at the
openess the youth seemed to have about sex (of course, I was only 18 at the
time myself). Then again, I don't have much contact to others of my age
besides work or studying, as I tend to have different interests than
drinking and parties, so I might have a skewed view... Nontheless, I tend to
agree, europeans are more expressive on that terrain.

Regards,
Tim

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> Very nice! The figures are simple but very expressive. It looks very much
> like some soapstone carvings I have seen. I would welcome such a card on
my
> birthday!

> I have to say that, like many radiosity images, the figures don't seem
> particlularly attached to the ground. I know this is somewhat realistic,
> though, and I don't think it detracts from this image.

I just want to clarify that there is no radiosity in this image. Instead,
roughly 250 lights are placed in a dome surrounding the figures, so light is
coming from all angles and directions. As for the shadow, the figures don't
drop much shadow as it is with such a diffuse lighting, but the dark spot is
a disc which gets transparent towards the edge. It's slightly darker than
the white background to simulate some sort of shadow, otherwise, there'd be
none really.

> Just out of curiosity, does the granite have some turbulence?

Here's the texture. Note that the figures are roughly 15 POV-units high.

  texture{
    pigment{
      granite
      color_map{
        [0 rgb <.6,1,.9>]
        [.3 rgb <.6,1,.9>*.6]
        [.6 rgb <.6,1,.9>]
        [1 rgb 1]
      }
      scale 4.8
      turbulence .6
    }
    finish{
      ambient 0 diffuse 1
      reflection{0,.4 falloff 2}
      brilliance 2.8
    }
  }

> Anyways, nice image.

Thank you!

Regards,
Tim

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On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 13:02:35 +0100, "Tim Nikias"
<JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote:

>And even if it is slightly sexual, I don't think it harms in this case.

Tim, there is nothing wrong with sexuality. There is something sexual/
enticing about "Joie de vie" which you image gives.

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> >And even if it is slightly sexual, I don't think it harms in this case.
>
> Tim, there is nothing wrong with sexuality. There is something sexual/
> enticing about "Joie de vie" which you image gives.

Nah, you misunderstood me. I know there's nothing wrong with sexuality. I
meant, that in this case, with this person, it doesn't harm, as she won't
look at me like "what are you filthy little pervert thinking?!". That's what
I meant with it doesn't harm in this case. :-) Of course, with a different
girl, I might get Stefan's reaction: a slap *through* the face. ;-)

Regards,
Tim

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Tim Nikias wrote:
> "A hug has many meanings...", and on the back I go on
> that I hope she's not as naive as to think I only hug her because it's her
> birthday. :-)

I think this line might be what's giving people the sexual-allusion 
jitters.. I must admit that I too read it as "I'm hugging you because I 
want to move things to the next level" .. and then the picture, it's not 
the feet .. it's the position of your head and her head thrown back in 
seeming extacy :)

OTHER than the words, I absolutely love this and would love to have it 
carved in stone in my front yard.

Cheers!
Rick Measham

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On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 23:37:32 +0100, "Tim Nikias"
<JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote:

>> >And even if it is slightly sexual, I don't think it harms in this case.
>>
>> Tim, there is nothing wrong with sexuality. There is something sexual/
>> enticing about "Joie de vie" which you image gives.
>
>Nah, you misunderstood me. I know there's nothing wrong with sexuality. I
>meant, that in this case, with this person, it doesn't harm, as she won't
>look at me like "what are you filthy little pervert thinking?!". That's what
>I meant with it doesn't harm in this case. :-) Of course, with a different
>girl, I might get Stefan's reaction: a slap *through* the face. ;-)

Er... I was only talking about the image.

Lucifer. The cruciform shape of Lucifer mimicking the earthly fate of
Jesus.

PS Remind me never let me be hugged by you. My kidneys wouldn't like
it.

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> I think this line might be what's giving people the sexual-allusion
> jitters.. I must admit that I too read it as "I'm hugging you because I
> want to move things to the next level" .. and then the picture, it's not
> the feet .. it's the position of your head and her head thrown back in
> seeming extacy :)

Ah, well, I give up! It's all about sex, yeah! ;-P (Nah, not really, but I
guess you knew that...)

> OTHER than the words, I absolutely love this and would love to have it
> carved in stone in my front yard.

Thanks! My dad liked the figures as well. I probably could make a sort of
series out of this, though I'd rather stylize the figures more in that case,
to make them more unique...

And who knows, with rapid prototyping, I might even get myself a model of
one of my meshes someday...

Regards,
Tim

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"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote

> Well, like I said in a different post, I was thinking along the lines of:
> she sees her friend - rushes towards him in cheerful expectation - and is
> being lifted by his hug. So where does she place her legs? One is to his
> side, the other is hidden from view, but just pointing backward.

If you want to remove sexual overtones (which are definitely present IMO but
not necessarily bad) lift your head up looking at her head (more so than
now, maybe exaggeratedly, a more lateral view with a visible gap will help)
and close her legs and arc them backwards.

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"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> spake:

>> >And even if it is slightly sexual, I don't think it harms in this case.
>>
>> Tim, there is nothing wrong with sexuality. There is something sexual/
>> enticing about "Joie de vie" which you image gives.
> 
> Nah, you misunderstood me. I know there's nothing wrong with sexuality. I
> meant, that in this case, with this person, it doesn't harm, as she won't
> look at me like "what are you filthy little pervert thinking?!". That's
> what I meant with it doesn't harm in this case. :-) Of course, with a
> different girl, I might get Stefan's reaction: a slap *through* the face.
> ;-)

Hahaha!

I always get that reaction, even if I just say "Hi! Wanna watch a movie?!"

:]
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Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions

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> If you want to remove sexual overtones (which are definitely present IMO
but
> not necessarily bad) lift your head up looking at her head (more so than
> now, maybe exaggeratedly, a more lateral view with a visible gap will
help)
> and close her legs and arc them backwards.

Thanks for the suggestions, and I'll keep such things in mind the next time,
but I think I'll leave this sculpture as it is for now. The discussion
overall was quite interesting though, so I'll know what to look out for next
time. :-)

Regards,
Tim

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Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>

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