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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Curved portal - new version [~63 kB]
Date: 29 Nov 2005 03:15:58
Message: <438c0e3e@news.povray.org>
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P.S.
Don't mind the right-hand frescoe's down-turning edge. has been corrected
since.
I may try a totally different floor, but I hesitate...
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I may try a totally different floor, but I hesitate...
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it still looks like airport
carpet to me. I think it's partially the color .. getting such a blue
when all the other stone is beige is a little surprising though I
imagine there are thousands of examples IRL. I'd prefer to see
beige/brown/terracotta/burgundy .. but then maybe it's not even that ..
but it does feel like airport-carpet to me :)
Other than the floor (and the slight x-distortion on the fresco) I love
this picture .. has the warmth and life of an oil painting, but entirely
generated in a computer! Well done!
Cheers!
Rick Measham
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlnet> wrote:
> P.S.
> Don't mind the right-hand frescoe's down-turning edge. has been corrected
> since.
>
> I may try a totally different floor, but I hesitate...
>
> Thomas
I have to agree with Rick that the color of the floor doesn't fit very good
to the rest of the image. but i like it anyways. i even think it's looking
better this way instead of having everything in one tone.
But there is still an other thing about that floor that i dislike. i saw it
already at the first example but didn't say it because i think it is
difficult to explain due my limitations of the english language. but i'll
give it a try.
The floor has a little rim (or step?) at the right side. But the texture
doesn't take care of that. its just projected over the shape. know what i
mean? that somehow doesn't please my eyes. maybe you could add a curbstone?
I hope you understand what i want to say ;-)
Greetings Roman
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Curved portal yest another version [~58 kB]
Date: 29 Nov 2005 08:32:34
Message: <438c5872@news.povray.org>
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Another version.
better fit. The consequence is that the scene has shifted.
Another floor tile is shown here.
Thomas
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Attachments:
Download 'curvedportal_07.jpg' (59 KB)
Preview of image 'curvedportal_07.jpg'
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"Rick Measham" <rickm*at%isite.net.au> schreef in bericht
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> I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it still looks like airport
> carpet to me. I think it's partially the color .. getting such a blue
> when all the other stone is beige is a little surprising though I
> imagine there are thousands of examples IRL. I'd prefer to see
> beige/brown/terracotta/burgundy .. but then maybe it's not even that ..
> but it does feel like airport-carpet to me :)
>
Well... perhaps they used airport carpet here !! ;-)
However, I agree with you, and this morning I was also thinking about
terracotta colours indeed. See the new version again
> Other than the floor (and the slight x-distortion on the fresco) I love
> this picture .. has the warmth and life of an oil painting, but entirely
> generated in a computer! Well done!
>
Floor and distortion have been corrected (?) still more....
Thomas
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"Roman Reiner" <lim### [at] gmxde> schreef in bericht
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> The floor has a little rim (or step?) at the right side. But the texture
> doesn't take care of that. its just projected over the shape. know what i
> mean? that somehow doesn't please my eyes. maybe you could add a
curbstone?
>
> I hope you understand what i want to say ;-)
>
Yes, I know what you mean. It is the effect of the texture. Simple to mend:
I shall add a curbstone.
Thomas
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> Another version.
Just thought i'd jump in... I really like this scene, its color scheme, its
lighting, the way the shape of the gallery leads the eye to the
background... I personally liked the greyish floor a little better. I take
it to be some kind of early ceramic tiling, thus I'd like to see some wear
in the middle of the pathway and right in front of the portal, especially
on the step... I second the idea that the step on the right side at the
bottom of the wall might be made of slabs of solid stone and not be tiled.
Furthermore, i still believe there's something not quite right at the
bottom of the rightmost wall. I see the step as curved while the wall seems
straight. Is it an illusion?
Once again, great job!
JYR
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Curved portal yest another version [~58 kB]
Date: 30 Nov 2005 03:55:43
Message: <438d690f@news.povray.org>
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"JYR" <jyr### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht
news:web.438c857257ee3358e8d525f60@news.povray.org...
> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> > Another version.
> Just thought i'd jump in... I really like this scene, its color scheme,
its
> lighting, the way the shape of the gallery leads the eye to the
> background... I personally liked the greyish floor a little better. I take
> it to be some kind of early ceramic tiling, thus I'd like to see some wear
> in the middle of the pathway and right in front of the portal, especially
> on the step... I second the idea that the step on the right side at the
> bottom of the wall might be made of slabs of solid stone and not be tiled.
> Furthermore, i still believe there's something not quite right at the
> bottom of the rightmost wall. I see the step as curved while the wall
seems
> straight. Is it an illusion?
>
> Once again, great job!
>
Thank you! Thank you!
The floor is taking quite a lot of comments, so I shall have to work on it.
I have decided now to throw out the tiles and go on with a rougher floor.
Still experimenting though...
You are right about the lower righthand corner. I don't know how to solve
this well. The wall is a cylindrical mesh, and it has been subdivided
several times, so I am a bit at a loss why it still seems straight.
Especially, as in Poseray, it looks smoothly curved. Puzzling. Have to go
back to the original I guess.
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From: Remy Closset
Subject: Re: Curved portal yest another version [~58 kB]
Date: 30 Nov 2005 11:56:32
Message: <438dd9c0$1@news.povray.org>
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Well well better Thomas.
The fresco is nice now. In the last version, there was the following way to
reduce the deformation on the x axis is to decrease the image map itself
using a transformation. In fact there surely no way to correct the camera
deformation, but the important thing is to satisfy our human vision. In the
Parthenon, the columns are bended or curved, isnt'it? The floor would be
better with terra cotta tiles.
438d690f@news.povray.org...
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> "JYR" <jyr### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht
> news:web.438c857257ee3358e8d525f60@news.povray.org...
>> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
>> > Another version.
>> Just thought i'd jump in... I really like this scene, its color scheme,
> its
>> lighting, the way the shape of the gallery leads the eye to the
>> background... I personally liked the greyish floor a little better. I
>> take
>> it to be some kind of early ceramic tiling, thus I'd like to see some
>> wear
>> in the middle of the pathway and right in front of the portal, especially
>> on the step... I second the idea that the step on the right side at the
>> bottom of the wall might be made of slabs of solid stone and not be
>> tiled.
>> Furthermore, i still believe there's something not quite right at the
>> bottom of the rightmost wall. I see the step as curved while the wall
> seems
>> straight. Is it an illusion?
>>
>> Once again, great job!
>>
>
> Thank you! Thank you!
> The floor is taking quite a lot of comments, so I shall have to work on
> it.
> I have decided now to throw out the tiles and go on with a rougher floor.
> Still experimenting though...
> You are right about the lower righthand corner. I don't know how to solve
> this well. The wall is a cylindrical mesh, and it has been subdivided
> several times, so I am a bit at a loss why it still seems straight.
> Especially, as in Poseray, it looks smoothly curved. Puzzling. Have to go
> back to the original I guess.
>
>
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Curved portal yest another version [~58 kB]
Date: 1 Dec 2005 03:53:37
Message: <438eba11@news.povray.org>
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"Remy Closset" <rem### [at] neuffr> schreef in bericht
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> Well well better Thomas.
> The fresco is nice now. In the last version, there was the following way
to
> reduce the deformation on the x axis is to decrease the image map itself
> using a transformation. In fact there surely no way to correct the camera
> deformation, but the important thing is to satisfy our human vision. In
the
> Parthenon, the columns are bended or curved, isnt'it? The floor would be
> better with terra cotta tiles.
>
>
Yes the fresco is better. It was a matter of multiplying the u-scale some
more. With some trial and error I thought this was the best proportion.
I have now also corrected the apparent straight wall in the lower righthand
corner. I am learning to work with meshes every day! The culprit was the
corridor opening, as I had not provided a solid basis to it when opening the
cylinder.
For the floor: yes, I am working on a terracotta coloured one. No tiles this
time, but a rougher textured surface.
Thomas
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