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From: EagleSun
Subject: Re: Prepared for company (Update)
Date: 2 Sep 2005 23:42:01
Message: <43191b89@news.povray.org>
Whoah!

With this really nice scene, did anyone notice something missing on the 
floor?  (I don't necessarily mean "dust"... although maybe that's 
missing...)  The outside does not reflect on the floor at all... only its 
light reflects.



"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote in 
message news:43181930@news.povray.org...
> Here's the update with the latest, suggested and important changes: the
> chair shouldn't tip over anymore, and the window doesn't look like it's a
> vault door. :-) 9.5 hours rendering, cause this time, I rendered at
> 3200x2400 with antialiasing.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> -- 
> "Tim Nikias v2.0"
> Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
>
>
>


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Prepared for company (Update)
Date: 3 Sep 2005 04:53:00
Message: <4319646c@news.povray.org>
"EagleSun" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht
news:43191b89@news.povray.org...
> Whoah!
>
> With this really nice scene, did anyone notice something missing on the
> floor?  (I don't necessarily mean "dust"... although maybe that's
> missing...)  The outside does not reflect on the floor at all... only its
> light reflects.
>
>
I presume that the landscape itself is too low (and "far") to reflect in the
floor, so only the sky is reflected... Is that correct, Tim?

Thomas


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Prepared for company (Update)
Date: 3 Sep 2005 05:07:40
Message: <431967dc@news.povray.org>
> I presume that the landscape itself is too low (and "far") to reflect in
the
> floor, so only the sky is reflected... Is that correct, Tim?

Yup, great thinking Thomas, but there's a technical side to it as well.

The landscape is just a photo, which is placed roughly 16 meters away from
the room. It just fits the camera's viewing frustrum. But since it just sits
on a rectangular mesh (made of two triangles), reflections would look
awkward. So it isn't reflected at all, anywhere, using no_reflection. The
viewpoint does allow this, because, like you said, the room is above the
ground, so it would only reflect things above the floor-level, which, in
effect, would only be clouds.

Regards,
Tim

-- 
"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Prepared for company (Update)
Date: 4 Sep 2005 02:47:59
Message: <431a989f$1@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> schreef in
bericht news:431967dc@news.povray.org...
> The landscape is just a photo, which is placed roughly 16 meters away from
> the room. It just fits the camera's viewing frustrum. But since it just
sits
> on a rectangular mesh (made of two triangles), reflections would look
> awkward. So it isn't reflected at all, anywhere, using no_reflection. The
> viewpoint does allow this, because, like you said, the room is above the
> ground, so it would only reflect things above the floor-level, which, in
> effect, would only be clouds.
>

Yes, I discovered the no_reflection in your scene after sending my last
message. So, this is something to be careful about when choosing a photo for
the background. Hmm... perhaps I shall try something else....

Thomas


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From: Stefan Persson
Subject: Re: Prepared for company (Update)
Date: 4 Oct 2005 18:22:34
Message: <434300aa@news.povray.org>
Late answer.. nonetheless, I like it very much.
It's got some sort of Vray rendering feeling to it.
And that's not something bad from my point of view.
Maybe it's how the sunlight hits the wooden floor that
gives it that feeling to me.
I really like it. The small details, like the power outlet.

You should show this on CGTalk.com to get their
view too.. IMHO. :)

Stefan

"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> skrev i 
meddelandet news:43181930@news.povray.org...
> Here's the update with the latest, suggested and important changes: the
> chair shouldn't tip over anymore, and the window doesn't look like it's a
> vault door. :-) 9.5 hours rendering, cause this time, I rendered at
> 3200x2400 with antialiasing.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> -- 
> "Tim Nikias v2.0"
> Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
>
>
>


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Prepared for company (Update)
Date: 5 Oct 2005 02:51:53
Message: <43437809$1@news.povray.org>
> You should show this on CGTalk.com to get their
> view too.. IMHO. :)

I did that, and I got exactly ONE reply, and that was: "Photons for the
bottle? Can I see a close-up?"

To be honest, I sometimes think that those folks hanging out at CGTalk are
pretty full of themselves. Instead of giving some constructive criticism,
they *just* critisize or open their mouth to voice stuff like "What? It's
just another short movie, don't know why everybody is gushing about it."

I don't know, but that's not my taste. I either say something like a
compliment, or critisize by hinting at what *I* think could have been
better...

Ah well. To sum it up: I like it better here. :-)

Regards,
Tim

-- 
"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Stefan Persson
Subject: Re: Prepared for company (Update)
Date: 5 Oct 2005 14:53:46
Message: <4344213a@news.povray.org>
Agreed. They are pretty elitistic.. Atleast some of them.
And, yes, sometimes it's gambling if you will get pointers
or not. But I think if you are lucky sometime you can get
the attention of one of the better artists there and that can
most surely help you delelop both the image and yourself.
As an example, I had some problems when I was taking
my first stumbling steps to learn how the physics worked
in 3ds MAX 7. And luckily enough, one of the really good
guys saw my post and gave me alot of useful helpers and
information. He even sent me a sample scene that I could
disect to help me understand how to set up deflectors,
particle flows and so on.

But I hear you, and I agree. :)

Stefan

"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> skrev i 
meddelandet news:43437809$1@news.povray.org...
>> You should show this on CGTalk.com to get their
>> view too.. IMHO. :)
>
> I did that, and I got exactly ONE reply, and that was: "Photons for the
> bottle? Can I see a close-up?"
>
> To be honest, I sometimes think that those folks hanging out at CGTalk are
> pretty full of themselves. Instead of giving some constructive criticism,
> they *just* critisize or open their mouth to voice stuff like "What? It's
> just another short movie, don't know why everybody is gushing about it."
>
> I don't know, but that's not my taste. I either say something like a
> compliment, or critisize by hinting at what *I* think could have been
> better...
>
> Ah well. To sum it up: I like it better here. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> -- 
> "Tim Nikias v2.0"
> Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
>
>


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