> Actually, I think this looks pretty damn good.
> The open sky is good but I would turn the camera a tad downward to make
the
> rose more in the center of the page and do something with the floor. Not
> too much though.

Thanks, and after fiddling with it, I tend to agree on the camera angle. For
now, I've just added a texture to the floor, I'm as of yet unsure if I'll
add more detail to it, or leave it as it is.

Regards,
Tim
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> if you like the "open air" feeling i would give image more depth. for
> example with an vulcano in background. or a castle on an island with
> same pillow theme.

Hm, interesting thoughts. But I rather wanted to focus on the Rose, rather
than create some detailed background. The current backdrop provides enough
detail to look nice and enhance the background, but doesn't call for
attention. Additionally, I don't have much time left, and I'd rather have
something realistic renderingwise, than actual realism in the scene.

> it is an outdoor scene with a bright sun (maybe with a different
> color?), so i would leave away radiosity.

I've tried that. Now that I'm onto a more sunset setting, radiosity adds
that touch of color which is needed for realism. I was able to lower the
level of detail on the radiosity though with using a saving/loading step
which I've also described on my webpage.

Regards,
Tim
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> Simply awesome.  It has a cartoon-like appearance that I find very
> appealing.  Technically, you have worked wonders with the rose petals.
Most
> excellent.

Thanks for the praise. I'm glad the rose did go so well with the first
attempt. This way, I can focus on the scene in its entirety and experiment
with other stuff, rather than fiddle with the rose until it seems like one,
but then have no time for the remaining part of the image...

Regards,
Tim

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Hi

Make the pilars a slight pink colour! and post process to get rid of the
slight grey quality of the image
I to feel it's worth thinking about raising the camera.

Mick

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> So, this is where I've come these last days. Had to spend quiet some time
at
> work, preparing the movie "Day after Tomorrow" to show in our theatre. Few
> know that the movie gets shipped in several parts, which have to be cut
and
> glued together...
>
> Anyways, this gave the opportunity to do this 5 hour render (at 1024x768).
> There are some aliasing artifacts due to the two lines of columns, even
> though I'm using the adaptive antialiasing method 2. Perhaps I'll have to
> modify the distribution a little to avoid too many columns lining up on a
> single column of pixels...
>
> I still want to add some thorns and a leaf or two to the Rose, and I'm
> wondering if I should put something in the sky. I do like the "open air"
> feeling this has though.
>
> I'm not too sure if Radiosity is actually worth it in this image, I'll
have
> to do a few tests with three-point lighting or such to see if I can
improve
> the rendertime. I'd need to raytrace it somewhat larger to print it, and
> time is getting short...
>
> As always, comments and suggestions welcome!
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
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> Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
>
>
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I really like where this is going. I'd be delighted if MY partner 
presented me with something like that. :-)

The sky is nice. The pillars are good too - interesting without being 
attention-stealing. And of course, the rose. I do like that slightly 
dark red colour. (Oddly, the stem looks like a giant jelly bean - must 
be the angle or something, becuase it didn't before. LOL!)

Keep up the good work - and let us all know if she actually LIKES it. ;-)

Andrew @ home.

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Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:

> 
> Hm, interesting thoughts. But I rather wanted to focus on the Rose,
> rather than create some detailed background. The current backdrop
> provides enough detail to look nice and enhance the background, but
> doesn't call for attention. Additionally, I don't have much time
> left, and I'd rather have something realistic renderingwise, than
> actual realism in the scene.
> 
in my thoughts a background would give more depth to image. it could
have less details maybe added with some fog.
of course focus should lay on your rose.
but only my thoughts.

>> it is an outdoor scene with a bright sun (maybe with a different
>> color?), so i would leave away radiosity.
> 
> I've tried that. Now that I'm onto a more sunset setting, radiosity
> adds that touch of color which is needed for realism. I was able to
> lower the level of detail on the radiosity though with using a
> saving/loading step which I've also described on my webpage.
> 
question: will the image get a more realistic or more comic touch?
for me it looked like second one.

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> question: will the image get a more realistic or more comic touch?
> for me it looked like second one.

A stylistic touch, hence the CSG Rose, but overall a realistic scene. Maybe
something like a sculpture or something would best define what I'm after:
something artful, yet photorealistic in its own sense.

Regards,
Tim

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> Make the pilars a slight pink colour! and post process to get rid of the
> slight grey quality of the image
> I to feel it's worth thinking about raising the camera.

I've modified the sky now, it's colored properly for a sunset, as is the
sunlight itself. Along with some colored radiosity and, due to the colored
light, more spectactular cloud-colors, I've removed most of the "grey
quality". I've noticed that as well, and a sunset really helps.

As for raising the camera, I've lowered the focus somewhat to obtain a less
upward-looking feeling, and I'm rather pleased with it. I still want to have
a tendency towards the sky though, so I think that part of the composition
is done. I'll post the latest tomorrow or the day after. Thanks for the
suggestions though, Mick!

Regards,
Tim

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> I really like where this is going. I'd be delighted if MY partner
> presented me with something like that. :-)

Hm, didn't we have that discussion already? ;-)

> The sky is nice. The pillars are good too - interesting without being
> attention-stealing. And of course, the rose. I do like that slightly
> dark red colour. (Oddly, the stem looks like a giant jelly bean - must
> be the angle or something, becuase it didn't before. LOL!)

In the latest version, which I really like so far, I've raised the
ambient-value for the rose's textures, so that it'll glow a little with
radiosity. Point with the new sunset was the backlighting, I needed to get
the details back and wanted to highlight the rose somewhat, and I've found
that raising the ambient-value (for this scene at least) also provided
somewhat more contrast.

As for jelly beans, I think Freud would say that you're actually seeing
jelly beans because you want them, right here, right now! Go get some! :-)

> Keep up the good work - and let us all know if she actually LIKES it. ;-)

Thanks, I will.

Regards,
Tim

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Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:

> Thanks, and after fiddling with it, I tend to agree on the camera angle. For
> now, I've just added a texture to the floor, I'm as of yet unsure if I'll
> add more detail to it, or leave it as it is.
> 


How about adding a compass rose
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22compass+rose%22+&btnG=Search
to the floor?

They make nice marble floors, and it makes for a good pun.

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