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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 26 Apr 2004 21:14:32
Message: <408db3f8@news.povray.org>
Perhaps a more advanced version will create more feedback... So, here I am
now. Not yet sure if this isn't already the finished state, but that's it
for today.

I'm thinking about removing the blue light off of the man, so that his
silhouette is rather black vs the background, instead of the outlined
version similiar to the woman.

What bugs me is the goodbye-wave the woman tosses at him whilst not looking,
I'm not 100% sure that it has the correct effect. I'm still working on that,
but maybe that's the best I can do when doing silhouettes.

Anyways, comments and suggestions appreciated,
Tim

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"Tim Nikias v2.0"
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From: Douglas Duncan
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 26 Apr 2004 21:45:02
Message: <pan.2004.04.27.01.45.01.77114@to.group>
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 03:09:38 +0100, Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:

> Perhaps a more advanced version will create more feedback... So, here I am
> now. Not yet sure if this isn't already the finished state, but that's it
> for today.
> 
> I'm thinking about removing the blue light off of the man, so that his
> silhouette is rather black vs the background, instead of the outlined
> version similiar to the woman.
> 
> What bugs me is the goodbye-wave the woman tosses at him whilst not looking,
> I'm not 100% sure that it has the correct effect. I'm still working on that,
> but maybe that's the best I can do when doing silhouettes.
> 
> Anyways, comments and suggestions appreciated,
> Tim

Tim, I really like your work, but the woman's arm appears to be in an
unnatural position. Maybe try putting it with the forearm at a 90 degree
angle (give or take and the palm facing forward) might make it appear
more natural (although that might not convey the same message).

Also, the man not facing her would not see her waving so what is the
point? I would think that rotating the man towards her a little more might
help. Maybe even turn his face a little towards the woman while still
looking down.

No matter what you decide to do, thanks for sharing your wonderful works
with us. They really make me wish I was able to generate images that would
evoke the emotions that yours do.


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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 26 Apr 2004 21:59:44
Message: <408dbe90$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:

> Perhaps a more advanced version will create more feedback... So, here I am
> now. Not yet sure if this isn't already the finished state, but that's it
> for today.
> 
> I'm thinking about removing the blue light off of the man, so that his
> silhouette is rather black vs the background, instead of the outlined
> version similiar to the woman.
> 
> What bugs me is the goodbye-wave the woman tosses at him whilst not looking,
> I'm not 100% sure that it has the correct effect. I'm still working on that,
> but maybe that's the best I can do when doing silhouettes.
> 
> Anyways, comments and suggestions appreciated,

First impression I got is that she was sayin', "Talk to the hand 'cuz 
the ears ain't listenin'!".

Yeah, I know that look.
:-(
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Dan P
http://<broken link>


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From: Roody Aumoithe
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 26 Apr 2004 22:29:58
Message: <408dc5a5@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:

> Perhaps a more advanced version will create more feedback... So, here I am
> now. Not yet sure if this isn't already the finished state, but that's it
> for today.
> 
> I'm thinking about removing the blue light off of the man, so that his
> silhouette is rather black vs the background, instead of the outlined
> version similiar to the woman.
> 
> What bugs me is the goodbye-wave the woman tosses at him whilst not
> looking, I'm not 100% sure that it has the correct effect. I'm still
> working on that, but maybe that's the best I can do when doing
> silhouettes.
> 
> Anyways, comments and suggestions appreciated,
> Tim
> 

cool
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????


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From: stephen parkinson
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 27 Apr 2004 01:03:24
Message: <408de99c$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:
> Perhaps a more advanced version will create more feedback... So, here I am
> now. Not yet sure if this isn't already the finished state, but that's it
> for today.
> 
> I'm thinking about removing the blue light off of the man, so that his
> silhouette is rather black vs the background, instead of the outlined
> version similiar to the woman.
> 
> What bugs me is the goodbye-wave the woman tosses at him whilst not looking,
> I'm not 100% sure that it has the correct effect. I'm still working on that,
> but maybe that's the best I can do when doing silhouettes.
> 
> Anyways, comments and suggestions appreciated,
> Tim
> 
> 
in the uk, if you try to 'advise' / 'moan' / 'correct' in someway a 
teenager, the resonse is usually "Whatever"

I wonder if you'd consider a title change as it seems to scream it.

now, if you added a mirror behind him reflecting just the smile on his 
face, it would certainly get intrigueing (sp?)

I would also suggest you shorten her left thumb, and put in a slight ( 
15-20 degree) elbow bend. You can put your arm in that position, reminds
me of a swimming strke gone awry.

stephen


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From: stephen parkinson
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 27 Apr 2004 01:05:44
Message: <408dea28@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:
> Perhaps a more advanced version will create more feedback... So, here I am
> now. Not yet sure if this isn't already the finished state, but that's it
> for today.
> 
> I'm thinking about removing the blue light off of the man, so that his
> silhouette is rather black vs the background, instead of the outlined
> version similiar to the woman.
> 
> What bugs me is the goodbye-wave the woman tosses at him whilst not looking,
> I'm not 100% sure that it has the correct effect. I'm still working on that,
> but maybe that's the best I can do when doing silhouettes.
> 
> Anyways, comments and suggestions appreciated,
> Tim
> 
> 

re- fingers, what i thought was a thumb, appears after counting to be a 
finger, please rephrase previous to ' show left thumb'

stephen


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From: Felbrigg
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 27 Apr 2004 04:29:58
Message: <408e1a06@news.povray.org>
I preferred your first version, I found the structure  more appealing, there
was more room to read your own story into it.  Sorry.


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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 27 Apr 2004 04:54:29
Message: <408e1fc5$1@news.povray.org>
> cool

Thanks!

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"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 27 Apr 2004 04:57:45
Message: <408e2089$1@news.povray.org>
> Tim, I really like your work, but the woman's arm appears to be in an
> unnatural position. Maybe try putting it with the forearm at a 90 degree
> angle (give or take and the palm facing forward) might make it appear
> more natural (although that might not convey the same message).

Yeah, I was pondering about that as well. Though it is quiet possible to
hold your arm like that (tried it and when viewing the Model in Poser with
different angles it is obvious that it is natural), the angle seems to ruin
it. I'm still working on that part, hence, it's still WIP.

> Also, the man not facing her would not see her waving so what is the
> point? I would think that rotating the man towards her a little more might
> help. Maybe even turn his face a little towards the woman while still
> looking down.

Well, the idea is that he *knows* that she's leaving. But come to think
about it, it might even be better to do it reversed: he's waving her a
goodbye, but she's not looking and just leaving... That would make her care
even less...

> No matter what you decide to do, thanks for sharing your wonderful works
> with us. They really make me wish I was able to generate images that would
> evoke the emotions that yours do.

Thanks for the praise! :-)

-- 
"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Re: Goodbye WIP Take 2
Date: 27 Apr 2004 04:59:06
Message: <408e20da$1@news.povray.org>
> First impression I got is that she was sayin', "Talk to the hand 'cuz
> the ears ain't listenin'!".

Hm, you're right... Not totally "off-topic" for the pic, but not what I
really intended... I'll keep that in mind though.

> Yeah, I know that look.
> :-(

I guess we all do.

-- 
"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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