On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:26:38 +0100, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
wrote:

>The grass and rock... I kinda like the grass pattern as it is now, it felt
>wrong having grass grow on vertical slopes.

But somehow it feels "right" having grass growing on a huge floating
julia fractal?   :)

Do the rules of physics still apply at this point? This is surrealism,
isn't it?


>Thanks for your comments. It would get boring if everyone was agreeing with
>me :)

I wouldn't know about that. It seems there is always someone
disagreeing with me.   :)


later,
Glen Berry

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> Do the rules of physics still apply at this point? This is surrealism,
> isn't it?

Yes it is surrealism, which means the laws of physics apply exactly how I want
them to :)
I don't want to make everything in the scene strange, the hovering fractal is
enough. Trying to put that into a fairly normal scene will make a nice overall
surreal effect, I think.

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"Glen Berry" <7no### [at] ezwvcom> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:26:38 +0100, "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom>
> wrote:
>
> >The grass and rock... I kinda like the grass pattern as it is now, it felt
> >wrong having grass grow on vertical slopes.
>
> But somehow it feels "right" having grass growing on a huge floating
> julia fractal?   :)
>
> Do the rules of physics still apply at this point? This is surrealism,
> isn't it?
>
>
> >Thanks for your comments. It would get boring if everyone was agreeing with
> >me :)
>
> I wouldn't know about that. It seems there is always someone
> disagreeing with me.   :)
>
>
> later,
> Glen Berry

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"Mayhem" <thu### [at] shawca> wrote in message
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> How about jet trails in the sky and a little boy/girl/robot lying down
> (possibly under the tree) flying a kite.

Hmm... I think jet trails might detract from the relaxed peaceful atmosphere of
the scene, 'cause it suggests pollution and noise and lots of things that don't
fit with the mood of the image. Robots might make a nice alternative to people
so I'll bear that in mind when/if I decide to populate the scene.

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There's enough room for a door, but not for the hobbit hole it would lead into,
unless I make the whole island into a house... nah, that would just be wierd :)

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"Corey" <sch### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> Near the top of the julia you have a little circle of grass that almost
> looks like a yin yang. You could take it that way, but I also think there is
> just enough room for a hobbit-esque door instead.
>
> Corey
>
>
>

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This is an island? I thought it is a boat made of clay, and expected you
to add a rudder, extending from the left side into the water, a steering
wheel (in front of the deck chair), and a sort of motor, for example a
kite (or birds, or big butterflies), connected with a rope, pulling the
whole thing gently to the right, creating a wake on the water.
Of course a door is required to reach the cabins in the lower part; all
of them need a window -- perhaps in the unaligned style of Friedensreich
Hundertwasser?
This version looks much better than the first one, esp. the water is great
and the scene at the horizon is very realistic now.
I'm very interested in your next version!

   Sputnik

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That's a very different interpretation to my one, but I can see how it could
work like that...

My view was that it's a stationary place to relax and watch the clouds, but I'm
going to bear your idea in mind because there's definitely something in it :)

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> This is an island? I thought it is a boat made of clay, and expected you
> to add a rudder, extending from the left side into the water, a steering
> wheel (in front of the deck chair), and a sort of motor, for example a
> kite (or birds, or big butterflies), connected with a rope, pulling the
> whole thing gently to the right, creating a wake on the water.
> Of course a door is required to reach the cabins in the lower part; all
> of them need a window -- perhaps in the unaligned style of Friedensreich
> Hundertwasser?
> This version looks much better than the first one, esp. the water is great
> and the scene at the horizon is very realistic now.
> I'm very interested in your next version!
>
>    Sputnik
>
> --
> ----------------------------

> fr### [at] computermuseumfh-kielde
> ----------------------------
>
>

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Tek wrote:
> 
> The grass and rock... I kinda like the grass pattern as it is now, it felt
> wrong having grass grow on vertical slopes. But I totally agree that the
> rock texture isn't good enough to fill that much of the scene. Plus the
> transition between grass and rock appears too harsh in places (particularly
> the closest area), so I may find some way to soften that.

What if you used a slope pattern, or even a modified version of one of 
those blob-placing snow macros (with a fairly thin, precise setting 
using lots of little blob components), to have some dirt on the flatter 
surfaces for the grass to grow out of, so it doesn't look like the grass 
is growing out of the rock?

-Xplo

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Yeah I think I might try something like that, though the dirt colour might
interfere with the nice soft look of the image so far.

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"Xplo Eristotle" <xpl### [at] infomagicnet> wrote in message
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> Tek wrote:
> >
> > The grass and rock... I kinda like the grass pattern as it is now, it felt
> > wrong having grass grow on vertical slopes. But I totally agree that the
> > rock texture isn't good enough to fill that much of the scene. Plus the
> > transition between grass and rock appears too harsh in places (particularly
> > the closest area), so I may find some way to soften that.
>
> What if you used a slope pattern, or even a modified version of one of
> those blob-placing snow macros (with a fairly thin, precise setting
> using lots of little blob components), to have some dirt on the flatter
> surfaces for the grass to grow out of, so it doesn't look like the grass
> is growing out of the rock?
>
> -Xplo
>

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You know what? I think I like all your work. this is truely an interesting
image!


Gary


"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
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> No deck chair or umbrella yet, I'm still mulling over why they would be
there...
>
> But anyway, here's a version with improved grass placement, and some
flowers,
> bees, and butterflies to add variety. I've also made the water more
realistic
> and dipped the bottom of the "island" into it (with a few ripples
radiating from
> where they meet). Oh, and also I added some distant mountains because the
> horizon looked a bit empty. Incidentally, the bees are stripey, but you
just
> can't see it at this resolution, so they just look like flying yellow dots
:)
>
> This render was at 1600x1200, with no anti-aliasing or focal blur, so it
only
> took 59 minutes 34 seconds. Things look smooth despite the lack of AA
because
> most of the things in the scene have soft edges (the grass blades, the
insects,
> the flowers, and the clouds) and I've rescaled it to 1024x768 which
smoothed out
> everything else.
>
> My immediate plans are to make less bees and more butterflies, then to
think
> about the deck chair some more...
>
> But beyond that I have no plan. The suggestions so far have been
excellent, so I
> welcome any more suggestions/comments/criticisms/etc.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Tek
> http://www.evilsuperbrain.com
>
>
>

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Just thought I'd post this. I built a deck chair for the scene, and it actually
works! you can adjust the position of it like you can see here :)

I'll post a new version of the full image once I'm happy with the next stage...

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