Ib Rasmussen wrote:

> 
> 
> Bill Hails wrote:
> 
>> Hopefully it's better, not sure it's finished :-)
> 
> 
> It's a beautiful images, but don't you have the zodiac signs going the
> wrong way round? In horoscope charts they always goes counterclockwise,
> but, of course, I don't know if that is true for orreries too. (I didn't
> even know there was such a word as "orrery", until you posted your image
> :)
> 
> /Ib

They may well be the wrong way round, I just put them up in the order
they came out of the font :-)  I'll reverse the order.

I got the font from http://www.widgetsworld.co.uk/font.php btw (font:
AstroGadget).
There's lots of astrology fonts available, but this is one of the
free ones.

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Very, very good! I'm going after the larger size now: I'll use it as
wallpaper.

I like what you've done with paintings and the wallpaper.

The order of the zodiac signs is right for an orrery, assuming that
revolutions are clockwise. It should be that as the Earth progresses through
the year, an observer on the earth would see the Sun move forward through
the zodiac. Right now, the Sun in the image is in Cancer (opposite Earth in
Capricorn), and will move into Leo as Earth moves into Aquarius-- yeah,
that's right. The zodiac order is reversed in horoscopes since the daily
rotation of the Earth is being charted there.

Is the support wire under Saturn dipping into the base? Have you angled the
pictures out from the wall slightly?


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"Bill Hails" <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all of your helpful suggestions,
> most of which I've tried to take on board.
>
> Hopefully it's better, not sure it's finished :-)
>
> there's a bigger rendition, 1280x960, at
> http://thyme.homelinux.net/Orrery.jpg
>
> The oil painting is by Joseph Wright of Derby, 1766,
> "A Philosopher Giving a Lecture on the Orrery"
>
> --
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Will W wrote:

> Very, very good! I'm going after the larger size now: I'll use it as
> wallpaper.

I'm flattered :-)

> I like what you've done with paintings and the wallpaper.
> 
> The order of the zodiac signs is right for an orrery [...]

Thanks for clearing that up.

> Is the support wire under Saturn dipping into the base? Have you angled
> the pictures out from the wall slightly?

Shouldn't be, and yes, in that order :-)

I found that the perspective is quite tricky with a wide subject
field. Pulling the camera back and narrowing the angle helps, as
I've had to do, but it might add other distortions of its own.
Perhaps that explains the support wire.

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> Thornhenge, SW Oregon, USA
> willl.at.thornhenge.net
> 

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Bill Hails wrote:
Great picture, but my guess is that you will be excommunicated. Earth is 
at the center of the universe !

Fabien H


> Thanks for all of your helpful suggestions,
> most of which I've tried to take on board.
> 
> Hopefully it's better, not sure it's finished :-)
> 
> there's a bigger rendition, 1280x960, at
> http://thyme.homelinux.net/Orrery.jpg
> 
> The oil painting is by Joseph Wright of Derby, 1766,
> "A Philosopher Giving a Lecture on the Orrery"
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

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Fabien HENON wrote:
> Bill Hails wrote:
> Great picture, but my guess is that you will be excommunicated. Earth is 
> at the center of the universe !
> 
> Fabien H
> 
> 
>> Thanks for all of your helpful suggestions,
>> most of which I've tried to take on board.
>>
>> Hopefully it's better, not sure it's finished :-)
>>
>> there's a bigger rendition, 1280x960, at
>> http://thyme.homelinux.net/Orrery.jpg
>>
>> The oil painting is by Joseph Wright of Derby, 1766,
>> "A Philosopher Giving a Lecture on the Orrery"
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
> 
Something else : Could you post the source for the sun ? I'd like to 
have a look at it.

Thanks

Fabien H

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Fabien HENON wrote:


> Something else : Could you post the source for the sun ? I'd like to
> have a look at it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Fabien H

sure.

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Maybe you should try an area light, because the shadows look a bit sharp!
But this sun I really like, because those flares ehhhh I really like 'em.

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On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:37:48 +0100, Bill Hails
<bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> said:

>Will W wrote:
>
>> Very, very good! I'm going after the larger size now: I'll use it as
>> wallpaper.
>
>I'm flattered :-)
>
>> I like what you've done with paintings and the wallpaper.
>> 
>> The order of the zodiac signs is right for an orrery [...]
>
>Thanks for clearing that up.

Actually the symbols should progress in a counterclockwise manner,
that's the way it was represented on all the orreries I used for
reference for the one I made for the "Worlds Within Worlds" IRTC round
(http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2002-02-28/orrery.jpg)

To read an orrery, the current sign (and month, if marked) is the one
directly opposite the Earth.  That is, it's indicated by a line drawn
from the Earth through the center of the Sun.  That's something I
didn't find out until after it was submitted, and therefore my signs
are rotated 180 degrees (D'oh!).

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"Jet Jaguar" <jja### [at] worldnetatt> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:37:48 +0100, Bill Hails
>
> Actually the symbols should progress in a counterclockwise manner,
> that's the way it was represented on all the orreries I used for
> reference for the one I made for the "Worlds Within Worlds" IRTC round
> (http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2002-02-28/orrery.jpg)

That would be right if the orreries were revolving in a counterclockwise
direction. Someday when Ive got an astronomy book at hand, I'll have to
check that out.

>
> To read an orrery, the current sign (and month, if marked) is the one
> directly opposite the Earth.  That is, it's indicated by a line drawn
> from the Earth through the center of the Sun.  That's something I
> didn't find out until after it was submitted, and therefore my signs
> are rotated 180 degrees (D'oh!).

Yes, that's why its called the Sun Sign, because the Sun's apparent position
is in that sign for the month.

Probably the absence of Jupiter would be considered a larger technical flaw
than whether the dance is deosil or widdershins. But I don't think that
detracts from the artistic merit of the work.


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Jet Jaguar wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:37:48 +0100, Bill Hails
> <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> said:
> 
>>Will W wrote:
>>
>>> Very, very good! I'm going after the larger size now: I'll use it as
>>> wallpaper.
>>
>>I'm flattered :-)
>>
>>> I like what you've done with paintings and the wallpaper.
>>> 
>>> The order of the zodiac signs is right for an orrery [...]
>>
>>Thanks for clearing that up.
> 
> Actually the symbols should progress in a counterclockwise manner,
> that's the way it was represented on all the orreries I used for
> reference for the one I made for the "Worlds Within Worlds" IRTC round
> (http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2002-02-28/orrery.jpg)

Hi, Yes, I found your picture while I was searching the web for
orreries. Very nice! I was almost going to hang it on
the wall in my pic, but thought that might be a bit cheeky :-)

> To read an orrery, the current sign (and month, if marked) is the one
> directly opposite the Earth.  That is, it's indicated by a line drawn
> from the Earth through the center of the Sun.  That's something I
> didn't find out until after it was submitted, and therefore my signs
> are rotated 180 degrees (D'oh!).

I've kind of decided to leave this one alone for a while, I've got what
I wanted out of it -- a lot of fun and a great learning exercise. I might
come back to it when I know more sdl and can make something more of it.

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