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Ive <ive### [at] lilysoft com> wrote in message news:3debb1b9$1@news.povray.org...
> 3quarter is my favorite, but maybe less overlapped.
>
> BTW the doesn't liquid (milk or what? I would prefer any kind of alcohol!)
> coming out of a nozzle always have the same shape as the opening of that
> nozzle?
It's only milk because I've not worked on the materials yet, it's either gonna
be coke, orange juice, or something alcoholic :)
Liquid coming out of a bottle can't be the shape of the opening, because air has
to get back in to fill up the empty space. But, that said, it doesn't look right
yet, I'm thinking of flattening it a little so it looks like there's less water
coming out.
I'm now rendering a less overlapped version of 3quarters.
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Tek
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Johan Feyaerts <joh### [at] no_spamskynetbe> wrote in message
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> I'd try to bring a bit more randomness in the splash where the liquid hits
> the water surface. It looks a bit artificial/static.
I think the problem is the surface is too flat. I'll probably use a heightfield
or isosurface for them.
Obviously this isn't finished yet so I'll tweak everything more once I've got
the right materials in there.
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Tek
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Slime <slm### [at] slimelandcom> wrote in message news:3debc1da$1@news.povray.org...
> By the way, I strongly suggest you spend some time pouring water into a
> glass and examining the shape of the water being poured as it comes out of
> the bottle. Maybe even get someone else to take some pictures as you do it.
> Right now the water coming out of the bottle looks like something very
> thick, like a glob of paint.
Yeah I agree. I think part of the problem is there's too much water for the
angle the bottle's at, once it gets to that angle it should be almost empty.
It's a julia fractal at the moment, but I think I may have to go for a more
conventional technique like blobs or something. I'll keep experimenting :)
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Tek
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Use 2halves.jpg.
But go and get a bottle or something and watch the water coming out. Its
never that rounded or smooth.
Also the waterfal would tend to hug the rock unless you have a good
over-hang (unless its coming out of a pipe or something. Also it'd be alot
flatter at the top as well. Again looking at a couple of pictures of
waterfalls would be good. :)
But otherwise I like it!
Suggestion for fluid... chocolate! As in Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory... have an Oompahloompa (sp?) pouring the glass.
:)
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Aaron <aar### [at] ihugconz> wrote in message news:3debd5c0@news.povray.org...
> Use 2halves.jpg.
Woohoo! Yeah that's my favourite too, but no-one else seems to agree with us! I
like 3 quarters too so I'm going to keep refining it from both those views until
I can make a choice between them
> But go and get a bottle or something and watch the water coming out. Its
> never that rounded or smooth.
Yeah I know. I was mostly doing water like this as a reference to my first (and
still my highest scoring) IRTC entry. (honourable mention in the topic "The
Sea", entered under my real name: Ben Weston).
Though in response to the comments from you and Slime I'm going to try something
new for it.
> Also the waterfal would tend to hug the rock unless you have a good
> over-hang (unless its coming out of a pipe or something. Also it'd be alot
> flatter at the top as well. Again looking at a couple of pictures of
> waterfalls would be good. :)
Well as you probably realised the squashed sphere that I'm using is going to be
replaced by a rock formation that much more closely fits the shape of the
falling water.
> Suggestion for fluid... chocolate! As in Charlie and the Chocolate
> Factory... have an Oompahloompa (sp?) pouring the glass.
Woah freaky coincidence. I was just listening to a tune called "Oompa Radar" (by
Goldfrapp) when I read your message! But I think I'm going to be boring and try
a realistic scene (to juxtapose with the unrealistic symettry).
Thanks for your comments :)
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Tek
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"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
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> Hi. I need help! (and not just in the psychological sense)
>
> So which layout do you think I should use?
> And obviously any other comments and suggestions you have would be really
> helpful. :)
>
>
I don't think that any of your current layouts will work. In order for your
concept to be completely realized, the bottle and the waterfall must not
only both pour, but also both pour into the same receptacle. I can imagine a
scene with the lip of a bar glass in the immediate foreground which becomes
more obscured as it curves to the opposite side in the background, where the
edge of the glass becomes the shore of an ocean or large lake. Fish visible
through the bar glass might also be interesting.
The absence of a hand holding the bottle will be pretty conspicuous in the
finished picture, so I would suggest a large pitcher instead with it's
handle out of frame. The line formed by the liquid still in the pitcher
could be aligned with the mountaintops in the background.
-Shay
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Hmm... it's an interesting interpretation, but the image isn't meant to be so
surreal as that. My idea is simply that there's an improbable amount of symmetry
to the things within the image, but that all of them remain possible.
I plan on adding a hand to hold the bottle. I had considered the idea of using a
jug (which I guess is the same as a pitcher?) but the problem there is that it
would be empty if it were held above 90 degrees, and at any angle below that it
will obscure most of the waterfall.
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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com
Shay <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote in message news:3debe698@news.povray.org...
>
> "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
> news:3debab39@news.povray.org...
> > Hi. I need help! (and not just in the psychological sense)
> >
> > So which layout do you think I should use?
> > And obviously any other comments and suggestions you have would be really
> > helpful. :)
> >
> >
>
> I don't think that any of your current layouts will work. In order for your
> concept to be completely realized, the bottle and the waterfall must not
> only both pour, but also both pour into the same receptacle. I can imagine a
> scene with the lip of a bar glass in the immediate foreground which becomes
> more obscured as it curves to the opposite side in the background, where the
> edge of the glass becomes the shore of an ocean or large lake. Fish visible
> through the bar glass might also be interesting.
>
> The absence of a hand holding the bottle will be pretty conspicuous in the
> finished picture, so I would suggest a large pitcher instead with it's
> handle out of frame. The line formed by the liquid still in the pitcher
> could be aligned with the mountaintops in the background.
>
> -Shay
>
>
>
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By popular demand, here's a re-render of the 3quarter image. I've turned off the
glass in this image because it was making a mess of the radiosity (and I don't
currently have the time to do a save & load of the radiosity).
To me this looks somewhat off balance. The spacing is now the same as that used
in the 2halves image, but because we're looking down on things the glass looks a
strange shape.
I'm going to try a longer zoom (i.e. smaller camera angle) to flatten
perspective a little.
What do you think? Is this an improvement?
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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com
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I like it. Most the idea of using a juliafractal for the waterfall.
What about putting things together. I mean a waterfall ( or beer, coke,
whatever) filling the glass?
Think i saw something like that in an advert long time ago.
Daniel
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My favorite is 3Quarter,
nice image btw,
Regards,
Thies Heidecke
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