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From: Rune
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 4 Feb 2001 10:59:55
Message: <3a7d7c7b@news.povray.org>
"Hugo" wrote:
> PNG's are not okay with me. Please don't use them.

They're not OK with me either. I can view them in my news-reader easily, but
I never download them at all because they're too big. I don't mind some jpeg
artefacts.

Rune
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From: Ross Litscher
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 4 Feb 2001 11:31:46
Message: <3a7d83f2$1@news.povray.org>
the larger size of png's is ok with me. but I guess some people still pay
for internet by the minute or something crazy. It may be best to post a jpg
for size sake, then include a link to a png version.

On a side note, I've had good results with the GIMP when saving as png's.


Rune <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
news:3a7d7c7b@news.povray.org...
> "Hugo" wrote:
> > PNG's are not okay with me. Please don't use them.
>
> They're not OK with me either. I can view them in my news-reader easily,
but
> I never download them at all because they're too big. I don't mind some
jpeg
> artefacts.
>
> Rune
>


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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 4 Feb 2001 12:01:44
Message: <slrn97qt83.hut.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 2001-02-03 21:57, Peter J. Holzer <hjp### [at] SiKituwsracat> wrote:
>On 2001-02-02 21:29, D.J. Brown <ext### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>It's the recommended replacement for GIFs by the W3C and has built-in
>>gamma correction.
>
>Yes, that's handy. PNG is a very nice file format, but the lack of a
>lossy compression mode is really a disadvantage compared to JPG.

Sorry for following up on my own post, but I have been browsing a bit on
www.libpng.org after posting.

Interestingly enough, there is now also a "JNG" format, which
encapsulates a JPEG stream in a PNG or MNG file format. Haven't looked
at it in detail, but this might be a way to combine the good compression
of JPEG with features (like gamma correction, gamut specifications,
alpha channel) of PNG and also use it for animations (in MNG).

See http://www.libpng.org/pub/mng/spec/draft-jng.html for details.

	hp

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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 4 Feb 2001 12:01:46
Message: <slrn97qtfd.hut.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 2001-02-04 04:42, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>Warp wrote:
>> 
>> Hugo <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote:
>> : PNG's are not okay with me. Please don't use them.
>> 
>>   Could you be more specific what is the problem with PNGs so that we could
>> perhaps find a solution for you?
>>   Being able to easily view PNGs is nowadays handy since PNGs are gaining
>> popularity.
>
>I have to spawn an external program to view PNGs as opposed to automatic
>inline viewing support in Netscape (this is a minor irritation).

Interesting. Netscape has had PNG support since early 4.0 releases,
IIRC. It doesn't support all features (e.g. no alpha channel, and I
think, no gamma correction), but should be able to display "normal" PNGs
about as well as JPGs.

	hp

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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 4 Feb 2001 16:31:34
Message: <3A7DCA2B.70F8B3BB@xs4all.nl>
Ross Litscher wrote:
> 
> the larger size of png's is ok with me. but I guess some people still pay
> for internet by the minute or something crazy. 

_Some_ people? I wonder...

But I admit it's crazy.

Remco


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 4 Feb 2001 22:06:08
Message: <3A7E17E1.6AF9A61F@videotron.ca>
Ross Litscher wrote:
> 
> the larger size of png's is ok with me. but I guess some people still pay
> for internet by the minute or something crazy.

Some countries - namely the UK - charge per the minute for local phone
calls, so for example a Brit might have "unlimited net access" but still
end up paying for the time spent online.

And I'm pretty sure that if it wasn't forbidden by law, the north
american phone companies would gladly do the same.

> It may be best to post a jpg
> for size sake, then include a link to a png version.

Fine with me.

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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 5 Feb 2001 05:21:25
Message: <3a7e7ea5@news.povray.org>
> Some countries - namely the UK - charge per the minute for local phone
> calls, so for example a Brit might have "unlimited net access" but still
> end up paying for the time spent online.

lucky for us some companies are finally offering true unlimited access with
no phone bill :)

www.madasafish.com for those who care


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: a whole bunch of roses [273kb]
Date: 5 Feb 2001 06:27:52
Message: <3a7e8e38@news.povray.org>
"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
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>
> > Some countries - namely the UK - charge per the minute for local phone
> > calls, so for example a Brit might have "unlimited net access" but still
> > end up paying for the time spent online.
>
> lucky for us some companies are finally offering true unlimited access
with
> no phone bill :)
>

Well, I've had off-peak (weekend and evening) toll-free access for a few
months now. I'm only just learning to let this influence the way I use the
net. I still tend to plan my online access before logging on, so as to limit
my time online.

That aside, small file size is still appreciated. I'll wait five days for a
render, but it doesn't seem to have improved my patience elsewhere.


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