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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 04:16:09
Message: <3b6a5dc9@news.povray.org>
Hi All

A work in progress - it started as a half formed response to the current
IRTC theme but I doubt I'll have time to finish it, not to mention the fact
that the other half of the idea hasn't formed at all. There are lots of
details still to be sorted but I thought I'd get your opinions before I
finished it.

Mick


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 04:55:18
Message: <3B6A66EE.21BD3772@ignorancia.org>

> A work in progress - it started as a half formed response to the current
> IRTC theme but I doubt I'll have time to finish it, not to mention the fact
> that the other half of the idea hasn't formed at all. There are lots of
> details still to be sorted but I thought I'd get your opinions before I
> finished it.

  Hey, Mick, don't be so picky, this is much more than "half a picture".
As it is, it must place near the top. I think you don't need much more
to have a good IRTC entry. So, here are the comments:

  1) I don't understand lighting. Perhaps the foreground is bellow a
cloud, while the mountains not? I think shadows are very important in
giving depth, and will like to see shadows on this image. What about
having on the foreground some zones of penumbra and other with direct
sunlight? (That is, simulating clouds shadows).

  2) The water is no much visible. Don't know what to suggest... perhaps
more reflection?

  For the rest, excellent work. The object placement is perfect, and
textures are very realistic. The composition is very peaceful, too. 

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Jaime Vives Piqueres

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From: Sander
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 05:34:06
Message: <MPG.15d48edb70c955d6989820@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <3b6a5dc9@news.povray.org>, Mick Hazelgrove says...
> Hi All
> 
> A work in progress - it started as a half formed response to the current
> IRTC theme but I doubt I'll have time to finish it, not to mention the fact
> that the other half of the idea hasn't formed at all. There are lots of
> details still to be sorted but I thought I'd get your opinions before I
> finished it.
> 
> Mick
> 
This certainly has atmosphere! A great 'half' image anyway :))

I agree with Jaime: some of the scenery strikes me as unreal (intended 
that way?) but it is difficult to pinpoint the cause. The leftmost 
menhir seems too much tilted, perhaps.


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 06:33:58
Message: <3B6A7DFF.DED15F97@inapg.inra.fr>
Mick Hazelgrove wrote:

> A work in progress - it started as a half formed response to the current
> IRTC theme but I doubt I'll have time to finish it, not to mention the fact
> that the other half of the idea hasn't formed at all. There are lots of
> details still to be sorted but I thought I'd get your opinions before I
> finished it.

Nice work, I particularly like the "painted" look. What about adding a cairn?
There may be a problem with the mountains, for some reason they seem to be not
far away but close and small. The reason may be the fog: if it's heavy enough
to hide the path a few feet away the camera, the mountains shouldn't be visible
at all.


G.

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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 07:39:11
Message: <3b6a8d5f@news.povray.org>
Thanks for the kind comments

I agree with comments about lighting, the fog seems to kill it. The
mountains are in sunlight the ground slightly blurred by a low mist - a
common sight in British mountains, from which I draw much of my inspiration.
I will have to play some more. All the objects are placed randomly, more or
less, some are placed according to height, some according to a pigment
pattern and some according to an image map.

I will place some objects strategically by hand but only at the last.

The water has given me nothing but problems - radiosity seems to make
colours very unpredictable, which can be very exciting when something
unexpected happens but irritating when you can control it.

The image has a Tolkeinish air but I don't really want to go down that road,
I'll keep thinking.

Thanks all

Mick


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 08:35:39
Message: <3B6A9B14.4EDAABC5@gmx.de>
Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> A work in progress - it started as a half formed response to the current
> IRTC theme but I doubt I'll have time to finish it, not to mention the fact
> that the other half of the idea hasn't formed at all. There are lots of
> details still to be sorted but I thought I'd get your opinions before I
> finished it.
> 

Very nice,

the water seems to lack reflection and the mountains need some more work
IMO, but the foreground, esp. grass and stones look great.

I have something in work for the next IRTC as well, but it somehow still
lacks being on-topic.  You seem to have the same problem to some extent,
but it already looks quite 'mystic'.

Christoph

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things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 09:49:27
Message: <3b6aabe7@news.povray.org>
"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:3b6a8d5f@news.povray.org...

> The image has a Tolkeinish air but I don't really want to go down that road,

Well, it does tend to go ever, ever on....


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 10:50:23
Message: <3b6aba2f@news.povray.org>
> The image has a Tolkeinish air but I don't really want to go down that road,
> I'll keep thinking.

If you want you can use this world I describe here.
http://www.angelfire.com/art/catokhan/buehara.html

If it inspires you, feel free to use it. (No models, just a description of a
fantasy world)

- Nekar


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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 11:46:00
Message: <3b6ac738@news.povray.org>
"Sander" <san### [at] stolscom> wrote in message
news:MPG### [at] NEWSPOVRAYORG...
> I agree with Jaime: some of the scenery strikes me as unreal (intended
> that way?) but it is difficult to pinpoint the cause. The leftmost
> menhir seems too much tilted, perhaps.

Personally, I think it's from the "painted" look - it looks so much
like a painting, its hard to tell its raytraced (that could be a
good or a bad thing :)  As someone pointed out, some shadows could
help, but overall its an excellent image :)

...Chambers


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: WIP
Date: 3 Aug 2001 14:24:12
Message: <slrn9mlqmv.ffh.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:22:10 +0100, Mick Hazelgrove wrote:
>Hi All
>
>A work in progress - it started as a half formed response to the current
>IRTC theme but I doubt I'll have time to finish it, not to mention the fact
>that the other half of the idea hasn't formed at all. There are lots of
>details still to be sorted but I thought I'd get your opinions before I
>finished it.

I love the shapes of the rocks, and the only bad thing I could say about it is
it looks very dry and dusty for a place with so much snow and vegetation around.

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