David Fontaine wrote:
> 
[...]
> 
> So if you have any startling revelations about scene layout feel free to
> let me know...
> 

Ok, let see ...

In general i like the composition, but one of the vehicles more in foreground
would be good.  Maybe consider placing the sunlight lower so the shadows become
a bit longer.  

I also wonder about the stripes on the terrain, some large scale turbulence
would be good.  

> I think these vehicles look suited to ice, whereas I put them in snow.
> Perhaps I should scrap half my work and split the components into two
> different scenes.

I think they look quite good for snow if it's not too deep.  Some traces
implying movement of vehicles would be nice.  

Christoph

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Well, if this were my scene (I wish!), I would lose the dome and the two
vehicles in the background, add one more in the foreground to reound out the
convoy, and add some tracks and snow spray from the tires.

The two scene idea is a good one. IMHO, having the dome and convoy in the
same scene confuses the focus.

Very nice scene BTW...

Dan D.

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Christoph Hormann wrote:

> In general i like the composition, but one of the vehicles more in foreground
> would be good.  Maybe consider placing the sunlight lower so the shadows become
> a bit longer.

That's what I was thinking, but my snow gets awfully dark. I'd increase ambient but
first I'd have to fix the color problem. (White lighting I guess :-/ )

> I also wonder about the stripes on the terrain, some large scale turbulence
> would be good.

Yup, like I said it's T_Stone13, I may just make my own.

> > I think these vehicles look suited to ice, whereas I put them in snow.
> > Perhaps I should scrap half my work and split the components into two
> > different scenes.
>
> I think they look quite good for snow if it's not too deep.  Some traces
> implying movement of vehicles would be nice.

Also what I was thinking, but sounds like a lot of work, or a lot of work for the
computer with a nice little trace() macro :) Will differencing a bunch of little
tire marks from an RMF cuase a huge slowdown?

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ddombrow wrote:

> Well, if this were my scene (I wish!), I would lose the dome and the two
> vehicles in the background, add one more in the foreground to reound out the
> convoy, and add some tracks and snow spray from the tires.

Yeah *sniff*
bye domes...

> The two scene idea is a good one. IMHO, having the dome and convoy in the
> same scene confuses the focus.

Let's just say this scene is up for experimentation...

> Very nice scene BTW...

Thankies!

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I like the dome.  It shows curved shapes from rectangular
blocks and I think that is cool.  Perhaps you could move it
back and towards the center so it forms an unobtrusive bit
of detail in the background.  Sort of like a Giles cartoon...

Or perhaps you could have the convoy leaving the dome
and coming towards the camera (or returning home if you
want to highlight the back end of one of the buggies). You
get the close up and still keep most of the original bits.

Nice work!

"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> ddombrow wrote:
>
> > Well, if this were my scene (I wish!), I would lose the dome and the two
> > vehicles in the background, add one more in the foreground to reound out
the
> > convoy, and add some tracks and snow spray from the tires.
>
> Yeah *sniff*
> bye domes...
>
> > The two scene idea is a good one. IMHO, having the dome and convoy in
the
> > same scene confuses the focus.
>
> Let's just say this scene is up for experimentation...
>
> > Very nice scene BTW...
>
> Thankies!
>
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> David Fontaine   <dav### [at] faricynet>   ICQ 55354965
> Please visit my website:  http://davidf.faricy.net/
>
>

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Spock wrote:

> Or perhaps you could have the convoy leaving the dome
> and coming towards the camera (or returning home if you
> want to highlight the back end of one of the buggies). You
> get the close up and still keep most of the original bits.

That sounds good, but during a lot of the layout I have been molding the scene
to the terrain. The domes are in the alcove, and the convoy is following the
little valley between the ridges. With a little work I can move things around,
but seeing how things fit together I may need to move the camera (a bigger task
than it sounds because I have to check landforms behind the camera to get a
suitable position), or even move to a different part of the RMF again...

> Nice work!

Thankies!

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David Fontaine wrote:
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> That's what I was thinking, but my snow gets awfully dark. I'd increase ambient but
> first I'd have to fix the color problem. (White lighting I guess :-/ )
> 

Try changing the brilliance, that could help.

> 
> Also what I was thinking, but sounds like a lot of work, or a lot of work for the
> computer with a nice little trace() macro :) Will differencing a bunch of little
> tire marks from an RMF cuase a huge slowdown?
> 

I would use a normal (bump map) or an additional image_pattern pigment function
for the terrain isosurface.  The normal would not much increase the rendering
time, but the function would.

Christoph

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