"Xplo Eristotle" <inq### [at] unforgettablecom> wrote in message
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> The really bright part of the exhaust might be sticking out a bit too
> far, or shaped wrong, or something. It looks a little odd.

It looks to me like the exhaust is wedge-shaped, and the reason it looks odd
is that, due to the camera angle, the right side of the ship is blocked by
the exhaust haze, and the left side isn't blocked. It looked odd to me at
first too, until I realized that; then it looked right. Did I mention that
this picture is amazing? Nice work, Zeger!

-Dave

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almost perfect.  more stars with wider intensity variation.  is the
planet really round?  it looks 2-d to me.  is your main light the sun? 
if so good.  where is your fill light and how bright is it?  i think it
may be a little too light in the shadows.  and stars never twinkle on
star wars.  in fact, i think the only way lens flare type objects would
work is in an animation as it passes in front of a sun.  was anything
changed on the model or just the scene?  have you thought about trying
the pipe mess macro for the areas where all the exposed piping is?  i
think the movie model had a lot more of that than you currently have; i
was looking at my model as compared to the picture on the box (from the
movie) and found that to be the case.  lookin' good.

Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> 
> Better?
> 
> ZK
> http://www.povplace.be.tf
> 
>  [Image]

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> Better?

hell yes!, that looks perfect :)

now - animate it !! (or post the source)

Rick

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> almost perfect.
Tnx.

> more stars with wider intensity variation.  is the
I know.  I realised it when the render was done.

> planet really round?  it looks 2-d to me.  is your main light the sun?
It's a sphere.  Main light is the sun.

> if so good.  where is your fill light and how bright is it?  i think it
I think there are 3 fill lights: one at the place of the main light, but
with no_shadow and less bright, one on the opposite side (in X and Z) and
one on the same side as the second fill light, but opposite Y-coordinates.
And they might indeed be a little bit too bright.

> may be a little too light in the shadows.  and stars never twinkle on
Yes, I know.  I just started the rendering, and then I noticed those stars.
I thought I didn't include them. :-(

> star wars.  in fact, i think the only way lens flare type objects would
> work is in an animation as it passes in front of a sun.  was anything
> changed on the model or just the scene?  have you thought about trying
No changes, only light- and camerasetup.  And of course the planet. (And the
background, but that's not really important)

> the pipe mess macro for the areas where all the exposed piping is?  i
I have thought about it, but I'm not going to do it.
I try to reproduce the real model, and with randomized piping, that's
impossible.  The siding-details are randomized,  and there is some random
detail on the hull, but they might be temporary.

> think the movie model had a lot more of that than you currently have; i
A bit, but not a lot.  The engine-section should be more detailed.

> was looking at my model as compared to the picture on the box (from the
> movie) and found that to be the case.  lookin' good.
A drawing?  Don't trust them!

ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf

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Rick [Kitty5] <ric### [at] kitty5com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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>
> > Better?
>
> hell yes!, that looks perfect :)
Not perfect.

> now - animate it !! (or post the source)
It's not finished.  The underside has no detail, no armor-plating, not even
the right textures.

> Rick
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf

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>  was anything
> changed on the model or just the scene?
I'm sorry.  I *did* change some parts.  The textures are a bit dirtier (?)
and less shiny.

ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf

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Dave Blandston <gra### [at] earthlinknet> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> "Xplo Eristotle" <inq### [at] unforgettablecom> wrote in message
> news:39726D57.621931DB@unforgettable.com...
> > The really bright part of the exhaust might be sticking out a bit too
> > far, or shaped wrong, or something. It looks a little odd.
>
> It looks to me like the exhaust is wedge-shaped, and the reason it looks
odd
It is.  But I added a glow in PSP.

> is that, due to the camera angle, the right side of the ship is blocked by
> the exhaust haze, and the left side isn't blocked. It looked odd to me at
> first too, until I realized that; then it looked right. Did I mention that
That's not good.  If it looks odd first, there's something wrong.  Maybe
I'll make the exhaust less obvious.

> this picture is amazing? Nice work, Zeger!
Tnx

> -Dave
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf

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Very nice.

I would imagine that the part of the ship around the exhaust would be darker
(almost black).  Right now it looks brand new.  Kind of like what you have
on the back-top around those 6 things, whatever they are.

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Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> I'll make the exhaust less obvious.

Some turbulence would be nice.

K.K.

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do you have light fading set to two?  you should as it models real
light.  also, if you use only one fill light, say between the planet and
the ship, and also use radiosity, you should be able to see okay into
the shadows.  which renderer do you use?  if you use megapov, you can
use light groups and exclude your fill lights from affecting the planet.

Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> 
> > almost perfect.
> Tnx.
> 
> > more stars with wider intensity variation.  is the
> I know.  I realised it when the render was done.
> 
> > planet really round?  it looks 2-d to me.  is your main light the sun?
> It's a sphere.  Main light is the sun.
> 
> > if so good.  where is your fill light and how bright is it?  i think it
> I think there are 3 fill lights: one at the place of the main light, but
> with no_shadow and less bright, one on the opposite side (in X and Z) and
> one on the same side as the second fill light, but opposite Y-coordinates.
> And they might indeed be a little bit too bright.
> 
> > may be a little too light in the shadows.  and stars never twinkle on
> Yes, I know.  I just started the rendering, and then I noticed those stars.
> I thought I didn't include them. :-(
> 
> > star wars.  in fact, i think the only way lens flare type objects would
> > work is in an animation as it passes in front of a sun.  was anything
> > changed on the model or just the scene?  have you thought about trying
> No changes, only light- and camerasetup.  And of course the planet. (And the
> background, but that's not really important)
> 
> > the pipe mess macro for the areas where all the exposed piping is?  i
> I have thought about it, but I'm not going to do it.
> I try to reproduce the real model, and with randomized piping, that's
> impossible.  The siding-details are randomized,  and there is some random
> detail on the hull, but they might be temporary.
> 
> > think the movie model had a lot more of that than you currently have; i
> A bit, but not a lot.  The engine-section should be more detailed.
> 
> > was looking at my model as compared to the picture on the box (from the
> > movie) and found that to be the case.  lookin' good.
> A drawing?  Don't trust them!
> 
> ZK
> http://www.povplace.be.tf

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