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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 29 Apr 2000 19:58:21
Message: <MPG.1375864ff49d36c9989688@news.stmuc.com>
Evening all.

I saw tonyb's media games, and decided to see how much of a headache I 
could give my PC by using media inside media...

The one on the left has two media containers, one external CSG 'shell' 
and a central sphere, whilst the one on the right has three concentric 
spheres.

Personally, I quite like the left hand object, and all I need to do now 
is come up with a reason to use it in an image...

If anybody wants the source code, then you're welcome to it, but it may 
take me a while to clean it up, as it was all done from within Moray.

Well, I'm starting to make *far* too many typo's now, so I guess it's 
time to go to bed.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 29 Apr 2000 20:05:08
Message: <chrishuff_99-2646FF.19081329042000@news.povray.org>
In article <MPG### [at] newsstmuccom>, 
jam### [at] dh70qdu-netcom (Jamie Davison) wrote:

> I saw tonyb's media games, and decided to see how much of a headache I 
> could give my PC by using media inside media...
> 
> The one on the left has two media containers, one external CSG 'shell' 
> and a central sphere, whilst the one on the right has three concentric 
> spheres.
> 
> Personally, I quite like the left hand object, and all I need to do now 
> is come up with a reason to use it in an image...

Hmm, looks like a closeup of a blue dwarf star on the left, and a 
long-range photo of a red giant on the right.

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TAG(Technical Assistance Group) e-mail: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 29 Apr 2000 20:28:54
Message: <MPG.13758d28b6ca9ecf98968a@news.stmuc.com>
> > I saw tonyb's media games, and decided to see how much of a headache I 
> > could give my PC by using media inside media...
> > 
> > The one on the left has two media containers, one external CSG 'shell' 
> > and a central sphere, whilst the one on the right has three concentric 
> > spheres.
> > 
> > Personally, I quite like the left hand object, and all I need to do now 
> > is come up with a reason to use it in an image...
> 
> Hmm, looks like a closeup of a blue dwarf star on the left, and a 
> long-range photo of a red giant on the right.

That was one of the concepts that sprang to mind to explain the LH object 
(I had no predetermined goal, I just kept fiddling till it looked right), 
but the other one was the small, PSB (PseudoScientific Bulls#!t) freeze 
capsule from Demolition Man (ie the Stallone/Snipes Scifi movie)

Or it could be a blast from a freeze gun, or whatever your subconscious 
drags up.

One point is that the CSG shell actually overlaps the inner sphere by 
.001 POV units (Both objects are spheres 2 units in radius) and without 
the overlap, the central mass in in the LH object doesn't look half as 
good.

<yawn>

Well, once the current download is done, I'm off to bed, so...

Bye for now,
     Jamie.

(Tired enough to mistype his own name.  Twice>


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 29 Apr 2000 20:34:42
Message: <17vmgssrtkrrask6lfehp6184gubk9jj9v@4ax.com>
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:08:13 -0500, Chris Huff
<chr### [at] yahoocom> wrote:

>Hmm, looks like a closeup of a blue dwarf star on the left, and a 
>long-range photo of a red giant on the right.

To me, the left one looks like a shield power-up from Descent :)


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 29 Apr 2000 22:05:10
Message: <390B9441.FDD22198@faricy.net>
If the first one weren't so blue it could be dry ice maybe. Well, anyway,
it looks like something around -200F giving off vapor.
The second one is a good explosion, just change the halo around it to gray
to make smoke...

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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 30 Apr 2000 00:12:02
Message: <390bb292@news.povray.org>
>To me, the left one looks like a shield power-up from Descent :)


Everything looks like something from Descent to you. ;)


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 30 Apr 2000 10:39:50
Message: <MPG.13764335fec3346d98968c@news.stmuc.com>
In article <390B9441.FDD22198@faricy.net>, dav### [at] faricynet says...
> If the first one weren't so blue it could be dry ice maybe. Well, anyway,
> it looks like something around -200F giving off vapor.
> The second one is a good explosion, just change the halo around it to gray
> to make smoke...

The (possibly) excessive blue in the LH object was deliberate.

I suppose I should state right off that I am usually pretty heavily 
influenced by anime/manga designs and conventions.  And besides, I 
thought it looked nice :)

I think I need to go back to the original halo around the LH object 
though.  It was much less diffuse and looked more like vapour being given 
off from the aforementioned cold object.

And I don't really think that the RH one works for an explosion, except 
possibly in microgravity and vacuum, it's far too regular and spherical.

Thanks for the feedback anyway.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Hot and cold V1.2 13.9Kbu - Hot_and_Cold2.jpg [1/1]
Date: 30 Apr 2000 10:40:00
Message: <MPG.137654c87c36d35e98968d@news.stmuc.com>
I've tweaked the density staements on the LH object, and the outer halo 
is a little more dense and visible in this version.

On a side note, does anybody out there know how to make a fairly dense 
looking media, but through which you can still clearly see an object in 
the centre?  Specifically, I need a mildly turbulent Mid Orange media, 
through which can be clearly seen a Dark Orange Star.

I may be missing something obvious, but the only solution I can come up 
with is to texture the Star object as matt Black with an ambient of 1.0, 
and allow the media to tint it to the required colour and intensity.

Enough rambling for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Moon47
Subject: Re: Hot and cold? 16.2Kbu - Hot_and_Cold.jpg [1/1]
Date: 30 Apr 2000 10:49:03
Message: <390AF90D.A48A418D@earthlink.net>
I think the left reminds me of a cloudy night moon...

Chris Huff wrote:

> In article <MPG### [at] newsstmuccom>,
> jam### [at] dh70qdu-netcom (Jamie Davison) wrote:
>
> > I saw tonyb's media games, and decided to see how much of a headache I
> > could give my PC by using media inside media...
> >
> > The one on the left has two media containers, one external CSG 'shell'
> > and a central sphere, whilst the one on the right has three concentric
> > spheres.
> >
> > Personally, I quite like the left hand object, and all I need to do now
> > is come up with a reason to use it in an image...
>
> Hmm, looks like a closeup of a blue dwarf star on the left, and a
> long-range photo of a red giant on the right.
>
> --
> Christopher James Huff - Personal e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
> TAG(Technical Assistance Group) e-mail: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
> Personal Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/
> TAG Web page: http://tag.povray.org/


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Hot and cold V1.2 13.9Kbu - Hot_and_Cold2.jpg [1/1]
Date: 30 Apr 2000 15:13:35
Message: <390c85df@news.povray.org>
>On a side note, does anybody out there know how to make a fairly dense
>looking media, but through which you can still clearly see an object in
>the centre?  Specifically, I need a mildly turbulent Mid Orange media,
>through which can be clearly seen a Dark Orange Star.

Sounds like you could use spherical for that.


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