Here's a Piano that i made using Rhino & pov.  I know that the keys are
wrong,
Please give me any critisim other than the keys

The Piano and Colums  (in the back ground, focal blured for her
pleasure) were moddeled in rhino the keys were an image map. Sorrry i
lost the source file in a
bad hard drive mishap (thats another story) It also appeaers to be
floating in mid air

Ive been using pov for about 6 months when i made this:
[Image]

Nathan R. Zwalsh
nrz### [at] fatnetnet

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Actually its not a bad image for only after 6 months. A couple of
suggestions though. I don't play the piano and haven't seen a grand/baby
grand piano in a while so my advise may not be exact. Anyway the legs of
the piano are way to large at the base, in fact they would look better
if they were simply tapered boxes. Same goes for the tool legs. Also the
piano lid seems a bit too thick. Also when you rendered it you might
have wanted to use a higher sampling rate for the focal blur. And as you
said the piano is floating. Those are my suggestions, nice image.

Oh and I see that this is an inline image, ie and HTML post. I didn't
have any problems viewing it but others might, in future I would suggest
posting all images as attachments.

"Nathan R. Zwalsh" wrote:

> Here's a Piano that i made using Rhino & pov.  I know that the keys
> are wrong,
> Please give me any critisim other than the keys
>
> The Piano and Colums  (in the back ground, focal blured for her
> pleasure) were moddeled in rhino the keys were an image map. Sorrry i
> lost the source file in a
> bad hard drive mishap (thats another story) It also appeaers to be
> floating in mid air
>
> Ive been using pov for about 6 months when i made this:
>

<Image>

>
>
> Nathan R. Zwalsh
> nrz### [at] fatnetnet

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Nathan R. Zwalsh wrote:
> 
> Here's a Piano that i made using Rhino & pov.  I know that the keys
> are wrong,
> Please give me any critisim other than the keys

other than the keys... the support for the lid is at the wrong angle
(lean in just a *tad*- ie a more acute angle to than it is currently to
the inside of the piano) and most supports also have an inner support
that is apperent which would hold the lid up at about a 7 degree angle.
The angle your full open is at is about right... oh, most supports are
*not* thin metal as yours is, in fact I have only ever encountered
wooden supports that would be wider and flatter than yours.

From your camera angle you would normally be able to see the stringgs
contained within, they are usually less than 6 inches below the lip for
obvious reasons (sonority and projection mean neither too high nor too
low, you want to use the wood and metal as sounding material).

Distance from the keys to the lid is too much proportionally.  The
keyboard lid is missing, either a simply lid or folding lid (the tip
folds down and in) should be there. Music holderis not wide enough, I
*think* you would just about want to double it.  At any rate the
mechanisms of the sheet holder are all missing

Far leg appears to be in the wrong place, nowhere near the end of the
last curve.  Leg shapes are fine, loads of art goes into them sometimes,
from ornate carving to wierd inverted seashell curves and such.

Yours appears to be a baby grand thus if you do decide to model the
strings you will need to show that the treble ends angle in over the
bass end strings and are not straight key to curve affairs

Lids usually have foldup and lay-flat pieces which, when you close the
lid come up to cover the strings and over the folded down manuscript
holder.  This is another nod to sonority.

Hm... I didn't mention the keys... so nyah! :o)







> 
> The Piano and Colums  (in the back ground, focal blured for her
> pleasure) were moddeled in rhino the keys were an image map. Sorrry i
> lost the source file in a
> bad hard drive mishap (thats another story) It also appeaers to be
> floating in mid air
> 
> Ive been using pov for about 6 months when i made this:
> [Image]
> 
> Nathan R. Zwalsh
> nrz### [at] fatnetnet

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Dearmad wrote:
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> 
> Yours appears to be a baby grand thus if you do decide to model the
> strings you will need to show that the treble ends angle in over the
> bass end strings and are not straight key to curve affairs

woops. meant bass strings angle under the treble strings... :(

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Dearmad wrote:
> 
> Nathan R. Zwalsh wrote:
> >
> > Here's a Piano that i made using Rhino & pov.  I know that the keys
> > are wrong,
> > Please give me any critisim other than the keys
> 
> other than the keys... the support for the lid is at the wrong angle
> (lean in just a *tad*- ie a more acute angle to than it is currently to
> the inside of the piano) and most supports also have an inner support
> that is apperent which would hold the lid up at about a 7 degree angle.
> The angle your full open is at is about right... oh, most supports are
> *not* thin metal as yours is, in fact I have only ever encountered
> wooden supports that would be wider and flatter than yours.
> 
> From your camera angle you would normally be able to see the stringgs
> contained within, they are usually less than 6 inches below the lip for
> obvious reasons (sonority and projection mean neither too high nor too
> low, you want to use the wood and metal as sounding material).
> 
> Distance from the keys to the lid is too much proportionally.  The
> keyboard lid is missing, either a simply lid or folding lid (the tip
> folds down and in) should be there. Music holderis not wide enough, I
> *think* you would just about want to double it.  At any rate the
> mechanisms of the sheet holder are all missing
> 
> Far leg appears to be in the wrong place, nowhere near the end of the
> last curve.  Leg shapes are fine, loads of art goes into them sometimes,
> from ornate carving to wierd inverted seashell curves and such.
> 
> Yours appears to be a baby grand thus if you do decide to model the
> strings you will need to show that the treble ends angle in over the
> bass end strings and are not straight key to curve affairs
> 
> Lids usually have foldup and lay-flat pieces which, when you close the
> lid come up to cover the strings and over the folded down manuscript
> holder.  This is another nod to sonority.
> 
> Hm... I didn't mention the keys... so nyah! :o)

  It looks like a piano though and most people who are not so well versed
as yourself would hardly notice these nit picky little things you mention.

BUT ...

   I seem to recall from most of the pianos I have played, and certainly
from the two that I own, the keys don't end ubruptly at a flat face as
it appears here. There is usualy a stepped box over the tail of the keys
before they enter the enclosure. There might be some models like this but
I don't recall having seen any.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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The keys are wrong ;)

Anyway, you should have an attentive look at a grand-piano,
even if you keep simple modelling, less mistakes will appear
(feets are strange, the bottom is too low to put knees under,..)

And columns that bear nothing are somewhat disturbing to me...

Fabien.

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Maybe he wanted to do a miniature piano! :)

I think this is a great beginning on a subject few have ever taken to
completion (I count myself in there).
http://www2.arkansas.net/~vossman/Keys4.html

I did think the legs needed some attention, and none of the textures are
quite right to me, but what do I know? :)

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

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Now you've done it! Upon reviewing my previous efforts I came upon some
things needing attention. I really wanted to get onto the blobman include,
too. heh

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

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Your keys are wrong ;)

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Nathan R. Zwalsh wrote:

>  Here's a Piano that i made using Rhino & pov.  I know that the keys are
> wrong,
> Please give me any critisim other than the keys
>
> The Piano and Colums  (in the back ground, focal blured for her pleasure) were
> moddeled in rhino the keys were an image map. Sorrry i lost the source file in
> a
> bad hard drive mishap (thats another story) It also appeaers to be floating in
> mid air

Cute! Looks like a tiny toy piano, of the kind old landlandies
collect...Probably due to the finish?

Best,

    S.

>
>
> Nathan R. Zwalsh
> nrz### [at] fatnetnet



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