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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:22:34
Message: <371B9E61.B14DDF33@aol.com>
GrimDude wrote:
> 
> Hmm, animating it may prove difficult.
> 

You bet. Took 2h 46m to render this one, with AA on, on a 233MMX cpu. I
used a double instance of the object though and it would have probably
taken only 1h 45m I guess. I did so many s-l-o-w test renders at 160x120
I gave up at this point with a 320x240 res. See what you think,
realistic or not. I believe it's lacking a lot still. Namely better
color differentation.

Disclaimer: nuking of any form is not necessarily endorsed by the maker
of this image nor implied to be by the newsgroup proprietors. But you
may want to check with the original creator and poster(s) as to their
beliefs.

How's that for legal mumbo-jumbo?


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From: Lewis
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:32:24
Message: <371BA163.46434208@netvision.net.il>
We povers are really peace-lovers. Except when it comes to cpu hours...


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 19 Apr 1999 18:49:22
Message: <371BA51F.F832DB7C@pacbell.net>
Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> GrimDude wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, animating it may prove difficult.
> >
> 
> You bet. Took 2h 46m to render this one, with AA on, on a 233MMX cpu. I
> used a double instance of the object though and it would have probably
> taken only 1h 45m I guess. I did so many s-l-o-w test renders at 160x120
> I gave up at this point with a 320x240 res. See what you think,
> realistic or not. I believe it's lacking a lot still. Namely better
> color differentation.
> 
> Disclaimer: nuking of any form is not necessarily endorsed by the maker
> of this image nor implied to be by the newsgroup proprietors. But you
> may want to check with the original creator and poster(s) as to their
> beliefs.
> 
> How's that for legal mumbo-jumbo?

  I don't know about that but it seems to me that as an American tax
payer I am sure that at least some portion of my earnings have gone
towards the development and deployment of nuclear weaponry. I hate to
see my hard earned money go to waste and think we should go nuke the
_ell out of something just so they don't go to waste. You know
something like the dark side of the moon or one of the lesser planets
would do it for me. I'm easily pleased an this would impress the _ell
out of me. Maybe a year 2000 multi national super nuclear fireworks
extravaganza compliments of the US military in cooperation with, and
aided by, the former Soviet Union, India, France and China's nuclear
weapons arsonals.

----------------

 I am very impressed with the improvements you have made to the source
I posted. About the only thing I believe you missed is a circular shock
wave at ground level similar to the aerial version you have depicted.
I seem to recall that the shock wave is much flatter than the one above
and it's lateral travel is well in advance of the terrestrial debris
cloud at the base of the detonation. I have seen a similar effect when
one of the 2000lb bombs, dropped from a B-52 on Iraq during the gulf war,
detonates. The shock wave is quite visible and you can clearly see a
visible atmospheric distortion as it spreads laterally out from the
point of impact.

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 19 Apr 1999 19:27:03
Message: <371BAD8F.BE45BABE@aol.com>
Ah, yes, I didn't think of that. Thanks. You may have just caused me to
render another few hours on this "blasted" thing.


Ken wrote:
> 
> About the only thing I believe you missed is a circular shock
> wave at ground level similar to the aerial version you have depicted.
> I seem to recall that the shock wave is much flatter than the one above
> and it's lateral travel is well in advance of the terrestrial debris
> cloud at the base of the detonation. I have seen a similar effect when
> one of the 2000lb bombs, dropped from a B-52 on Iraq during the gulf war,
> detonates. The shock wave is quite visible and you can clearly see a
> visible atmospheric distortion as it spreads laterally out from the
> point of impact.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:15:42
Message: <371bb91e.0@news.povray.org>
Ken wrote in message <371BA51F.F832DB7C@pacbell.net>...
>
>  I don't know about that but it seems to me that as an American tax
>payer I am sure that at least some portion of my earnings have gone
>towards the development and deployment of nuclear weaponry. I hate to
>see my hard earned money go to waste and think we should go nuke the
>_ell out of something just so they don't go to waste. You know
>something like the dark side of the moon or one of the lesser planets
>would do it for me. I'm easily pleased an this would impress the _ell
>out of me. Maybe a year 2000 multi national super nuclear fireworks
>extravaganza compliments of the US military in cooperation with, and
>aided by, the former Soviet Union, India, France and China's nuclear
>weapons arsonals.
>


Maybe the Y2K bug will initiate something interesting ;)

>
> I am very impressed with the improvements you have made to the source
>I posted. About the only thing I believe you missed is a circular shock
>wave at ground level similar to the aerial version you have depicted.
>I seem to recall that the shock wave is much flatter than the one above
>and it's lateral travel is well in advance of the terrestrial debris
>cloud at the base of the detonation. I have seen a similar effect when
>one of the 2000lb bombs, dropped from a B-52 on Iraq during the gulf war,
>detonates. The shock wave is quite visible and you can clearly see a
>visible atmospheric distortion as it spreads laterally out from the
>point of impact.
>


Not that I'm a bomb expert or anything, but I think the shock wave should be
roughly spherical. A thin-walled sphere with a slightly higher IOR might do
the trick...

Margus


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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:19:20
Message: <371BBB67.E645C0BC@tiac.net>
>Maybe a year 2000 multi national super nuclear fireworks
>extravaganza compliments of the US military in cooperation with, and
>aided by, the former Soviet Union, India, France and China's nuclear
>weapons arsonals.

Well ya' know, the Nostrodamos(spelling?) prophesy of world war 3 starts

in July this summer. So mabye you'll get your wish :-)


Could be some nut reads this thread and takes it heart. Like it was
intended for him....
...hey wait a minute....Where's that cancel post button?

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 19 Apr 1999 20:34:07
Message: <371BA422.80B547D1@ndirect.co.uk>
It's certainly getting there, but I think it's lost a bit of
shape.

Steve

Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> GrimDude wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, animating it may prove difficult.
> >
> 
> You bet. Took 2h 46m to render this one, with AA on, on a 233MMX cpu. I
> used a double instance of the object though and it would have probably
> taken only 1h 45m I guess. I did so many s-l-o-w test renders at 160x120
> I gave up at this point with a 320x240 res. See what you think,
> realistic or not. I believe it's lacking a lot still. Namely better
> color differentation.
> 
> Disclaimer: nuking of any form is not necessarily endorsed by the maker
> of this image nor implied to be by the newsgroup proprietors. But you
> may want to check with the original creator and poster(s) as to their
> beliefs.
> 
> How's that for legal mumbo-jumbo?
> 
> --
>  omniVERSE: beyond the universe
>   http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
>  mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?Subject=PoV-News
> 
>   -----------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 20 Apr 1999 01:35:20
Message: <371C03CC.C9260E13@aol.com>
Here's the ground shockwave addition. Funny Margus would mention an ior
in it. I thought of that while adding it in (higher pressure air,
thicker, denser, so higher refraction? sounds good) though I only used
it in the outer ring and no noticeable difference.
I still need to add a better absorption to the mushroom to mask out the
background, or rather, give it better thickness. I enhanced the
atmosphere shockwave a bit and removed the inner media object as well,
it was just messing it up anyway. Speedier render of course, around an
hour and a half I think. Closed POV before looking.
May be back with a third (and final?).


Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> GrimDude wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, animating it may prove difficult.
> >
> 
> You bet. Took 2h 46m to render this one, with AA on, on a 233MMX cpu. I
> used a double instance of the object though and it would have probably
> taken only 1h 45m I guess. I did so many s-l-o-w test renders at 160x120
> I gave up at this point with a 320x240 res. See what you think,
> realistic or not. I believe it's lacking a lot still. Namely better
> color differentation.
> 
> Disclaimer: nuking of any form is not necessarily endorsed by the maker
> of this image nor implied to be by the newsgroup proprietors. But you
> may want to check with the original creator and poster(s) as to their
> beliefs.
> 
> How's that for legal mumbo-jumbo?
> 
> --
>  omniVERSE: beyond the universe
>   http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
>  mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?Subject=PoV-News
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]

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From: portelli
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 20 Apr 1999 02:07:44
Message: <371C0B9D.C4825493@pilot.msu.edu>
The shockwave should be spherical.  The one he has in the sky is part of
the shockwave from the ground pushing the atmosphere out of the way. 
Ever watch Trinity and Beyond: The Atomic Bomb Movie with Wiliam Shatner
narrating?  Has declassified US bomb footage.  Scary.  But shows effects
nicely.

Ken wrote:
> 
> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > GrimDude wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmm, animating it may prove difficult.
> > >
> >
> > You bet. Took 2h 46m to render this one, with AA on, on a 233MMX cpu. I
> > used a double instance of the object though and it would have probably
> > taken only 1h 45m I guess. I did so many s-l-o-w test renders at 160x120
> > I gave up at this point with a 320x240 res. See what you think,
> > realistic or not. I believe it's lacking a lot still. Namely better
> > color differentation.
> >
> > Disclaimer: nuking of any form is not necessarily endorsed by the maker
> > of this image nor implied to be by the newsgroup proprietors. But you
> > may want to check with the original creator and poster(s) as to their
> > beliefs.
> >
> > How's that for legal mumbo-jumbo?
> 
>   I don't know about that but it seems to me that as an American tax
> payer I am sure that at least some portion of my earnings have gone
> towards the development and deployment of nuclear weaponry. I hate to
> see my hard earned money go to waste and think we should go nuke the
> _ell out of something just so they don't go to waste. You know
> something like the dark side of the moon or one of the lesser planets
> would do it for me. I'm easily pleased an this would impress the _ell
> out of me. Maybe a year 2000 multi national super nuclear fireworks
> extravaganza compliments of the US military in cooperation with, and
> aided by, the former Soviet Union, India, France and China's nuclear
> weapons arsonals.
> 
> ----------------
> 
>  I am very impressed with the improvements you have made to the source
> I posted. About the only thing I believe you missed is a circular shock
> wave at ground level similar to the aerial version you have depicted.
> I seem to recall that the shock wave is much flatter than the one above
> and it's lateral travel is well in advance of the terrestrial debris
> cloud at the base of the detonation. I have seen a similar effect when
> one of the 2000lb bombs, dropped from a B-52 on Iraq during the gulf war,
> detonates. The shock wave is quite visible and you can clearly see a
> visible atmospheric distortion as it spreads laterally out from the
> point of impact.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Ph Gibone
Subject: Re: Nuke_um !
Date: 20 Apr 1999 03:30:54
Message: <371c1f1e.0@news.povray.org>
There is something frightening in your image beyond the fear of atomic
weapons : it looks like the holy Graal with a halo (holy halo, alas)

Philippe


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