After spending about 5 hours putting this image together I am actually
fairly pleased with the result. This was the first render with the quill
pen in the picture, and I dont really like that aspect of the scene, and
the wood texture needs work.

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Paul

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This is very curious to me.
I'm not trying to be critical, just observant, please bear in mind.
I see a strange realism in this. And yet, obviously the quille pen is
far too small and the watch far to big comparitively (or so it appears,
read disclaimer above). Don't know what it is, maybe the writing? Makes
it look oddly real. And I'm saying all this because the pen itself is so
out-of-place in my eyes, however it too attains this almost surreal
reality to it. I'm stunned in a way. Think it has something to do with
the fact I think of the pen as being very unlike the one I have right
here (yes, I do. Ink as well) but I see it laying there like a real
object none-the-less. This was interesting to see. The watch really
helps the illusion of course, though I'm not sure why so well.


Paul Swagerty wrote:
> 
> After spending about 5 hours putting this image together I am actually
> fairly pleased with the result. This was the first render with the quill
> pen in the picture, and I dont really like that aspect of the scene, and
> the wood texture needs work.
> 
> Comments suggestions
> 
> Paul
> 
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Thanks, I think.

Ok, I admit it, you confused me there. You think that it looks real (in
an odd sort of way) even though you can see through the pen? And I am
duely impressed that you have a quill pen handy, mind sending that to me
so I can put it in the image. :)

Paul

Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> This is very curious to me.
> I'm not trying to be critical, just observant, please bear in mind.
> I see a strange realism in this. And yet, obviously the quille pen is
> far too small and the watch far to big comparitively (or so it appears,
> read disclaimer above). Don't know what it is, maybe the writing? Makes
> it look oddly real. And I'm saying all this because the pen itself is so
> out-of-place in my eyes, however it too attains this almost surreal
> reality to it. I'm stunned in a way. Think it has something to do with
> the fact I think of the pen as being very unlike the one I have right
> here (yes, I do. Ink as well) but I see it laying there like a real
> object none-the-less. This was interesting to see. The watch really
> helps the illusion of course, though I'm not sure why so well.
> 
> Paul Swagerty wrote:
> >
> > After spending about 5 hours putting this image together I am actually
> > fairly pleased with the result. This was the first render with the quill
> > pen in the picture, and I dont really like that aspect of the scene, and
> > the wood texture needs work.
> >
> > Comments suggestions
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  [Image]
> 
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Actually I think he used a Pencil; cause a Quill would have been too early for
Lincoln. he would have used a fountain pen if not the pencil. well that is my only
criticism for the day.  And that is only if you want it realistic and to the time
period.  but other than that little Tid-bit the Scene looks Great!  LOVE the
reflection of Lincoln in the watch!

That's my 2 bits.....

Psychomek


Paul Swagerty wrote:

> Thanks, I think.
>
> Ok, I admit it, you confused me there. You think that it looks real (in
> an odd sort of way) even though you can see through the pen? And I am
> duely impressed that you have a quill pen handy, mind sending that to me
> so I can put it in the image. :)
>
> Paul
>
> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > This is very curious to me.
> > I'm not trying to be critical, just observant, please bear in mind.
> > I see a strange realism in this. And yet, obviously the quille pen is
> > far too small and the watch far to big comparitively (or so it appears,
> > read disclaimer above). Don't know what it is, maybe the writing? Makes
> > it look oddly real. And I'm saying all this because the pen itself is so
> > out-of-place in my eyes, however it too attains this almost surreal
> > reality to it. I'm stunned in a way. Think it has something to do with
> > the fact I think of the pen as being very unlike the one I have right
> > here (yes, I do. Ink as well) but I see it laying there like a real
> > object none-the-less. This was interesting to see. The watch really
> > helps the illusion of course, though I'm not sure why so well.
> >
> > Paul Swagerty wrote:
> > >
> > > After spending about 5 hours putting this image together I am actually
> > > fairly pleased with the result. This was the first render with the quill
> > > pen in the picture, and I dont really like that aspect of the scene, and
> > > the wood texture needs work.
> > >
> > > Comments suggestions
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  [Image]
> >
> > --
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and it was also on an envelope that he wrote it on.....
Psychomek wrote:

> Actually I think he used a Pencil; cause a Quill would have been too early for
> Lincoln. he would have used a fountain pen if not the pencil. well that is my only
> criticism for the day.  And that is only if you want it realistic and to the time
> period.  but other than that little Tid-bit the Scene looks Great!  LOVE the
> reflection of Lincoln in the watch!
>
> That's my 2 bits.....
>
> Psychomek
>
> Paul Swagerty wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I think.
> >
> > Ok, I admit it, you confused me there. You think that it looks real (in
> > an odd sort of way) even though you can see through the pen? And I am
> > duely impressed that you have a quill pen handy, mind sending that to me
> > so I can put it in the image. :)
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Bob Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > This is very curious to me.
> > > I'm not trying to be critical, just observant, please bear in mind.
> > > I see a strange realism in this. And yet, obviously the quille pen is
> > > far too small and the watch far to big comparitively (or so it appears,
> > > read disclaimer above). Don't know what it is, maybe the writing? Makes
> > > it look oddly real. And I'm saying all this because the pen itself is so
> > > out-of-place in my eyes, however it too attains this almost surreal
> > > reality to it. I'm stunned in a way. Think it has something to do with
> > > the fact I think of the pen as being very unlike the one I have right
> > > here (yes, I do. Ink as well) but I see it laying there like a real
> > > object none-the-less. This was interesting to see. The watch really
> > > helps the illusion of course, though I'm not sure why so well.
> > >
> > > Paul Swagerty wrote:
> > > >
> > > > After spending about 5 hours putting this image together I am actually
> > > > fairly pleased with the result. This was the first render with the quill
> > > > pen in the picture, and I dont really like that aspect of the scene, and
> > > > the wood texture needs work.
> > > >
> > > > Comments suggestions
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  [Image]
> > >
> > > --
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> > >   http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
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Psychomek wrote:
> 
> and it was also on an envelope that he wrote it on.....
> Psychomek wrote:
> 
> > Actually I think he used a Pencil; cause a Quill would have been too early for
> > Lincoln. he would have used a fountain pen if not the pencil. well that is my only
> > criticism for the day.  And that is only if you want it realistic and to the time
> > period.  but other than that little Tid-bit the Scene looks Great!  LOVE the
> > reflection of Lincoln in the watch!
> >
> > That's my 2 bits.....
> >
> > Psychomek
 
  In his early school days it is reported that he used charcoal from the
fire place to mark the paper with. Now this I learned quite some time ago
and history may indeed be reporting something else now. Even so that was a
young Mr. Lincoln and the reflection in the back of the watch casing shows
him as he would have appeared in his presidency. I think by that time he
might have graduated to quill pens and see no reason to believe that they
would not have been around during his time. Certainly Ben Franklin has been
pictured with a trusty quill pen as his choice of weapons when doing battle
with the written word. My grandmother preferred writting to friends with
a quill pen as recently as 30 years ago because she was taught in school
to use the quill and didn't like the way her flowing script style of
writting looked with the cartridge and fountain type pens.

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Well, Ken. I've read that he used the back of a broken shovel. He would put
it into the fire to blacken it, and then scribe into the char to make his
figures. An interesting aspect, considering he became (in my mind) our
greatest President (despite what yahoo Clinton supporters say).

Paul, this is a great image and I will, for a time, use it as my Wallpaper.
:)

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Quite a nice image. I love the realism. However, is that an incandescent
bulb desk lamp I see reflecting in the watch?

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Chris Maryan wrote:
> Quite a nice image. I love the realism. However, is that an incandescent
> bulb desk lamp I see reflecting in the watch?
> --
> Chris Maryan

  You are seeing the reflection of the watch crytal reflecting onto the back
cover of the watch. If you look close you can see a blurred image of Lincoln
on the near edge of the crystal so it is a two interactive reflecting surfaces
illusion.

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I meant I have a "real" quill pen and ink bottle (contemporary from
Barnes and Noble book store). Sorry, no POV script of them as of yet :|
Of course maybe you knew what I was saying.
About the look of the picture, I just saw it as having a odd sort of
realism to it. Too hard to explain. The pen didn't seem anything like a
quill pen (so sorry to say that) and yet it looked like I was seeing all
realistic objects just the same.
Making any sense now? ;)
Again, like the picture thus far, saw latest one, the watch is best in
the scene to me still, and hope you get the writing looking better if
you continue to work on it.


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>
> Ok, I admit it, you confused me there. You think that it looks real (in
> an odd sort of way) even though you can see through the pen? And I am
> duely impressed that you have a quill pen handy, mind sending that to me
> so I can put it in the image. :)
> 
> Paul

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