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From: Scott McDonald
Subject: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 02:16:24
Message: <36B9496E.27209320@metrolink.com>
http://www.urbandragons.com/new/homewardbound2.jpg

i'm at a standstill now, a few things to do yet, and some things that i
just don't know how to do.


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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 06:52:02
Message: <36b989e2.0@news.povray.org>
Scott McDonald schrieb in Nachricht <36B9496E.27209320@metrolink.com>...
>http://www.urbandragons.com/new/homewardbound2.jpg
>
>i'm at a standstill now, a few things to do yet, and some things that i
>just don't know how to do.

I've been trying this url since your e-mail, but I always get a read time
out. Tracert also shows multiple time out after rtmetro1.gate.net (which was
#17 in my route).

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Rudy Velthuis


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 07:33:43
Message: <36B99372.8BAA2709@pacbell.net>
Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> 
> Scott McDonald schrieb in Nachricht <36B9496E.27209320@metrolink.com>...
> >http://www.urbandragons.com/new/homewardbound2.jpg
> >
> >i'm at a standstill now, a few things to do yet, and some things that i
> >just don't know how to do.
> 
> I've been trying this url since your e-mail, but I always get a read time
> out. Tracert also shows multiple time out after rtmetro1.gate.net (which was
> #17 in my route).
> 
> --
> Rudy Velthuis

I viewed before your post and now again after it. The link
works form here on the west coast of North America. The
improvements made to the image are great. A little work
polishing it up and I think it will be a keeper.

Scott - you did not mention where your stand still is in the
project. Still the fog-sky-camera problem ?

-- 
Ken Tyler

tyl### [at] pacbellnet


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 07:54:36
Message: <36B9988B.F1ED49EC@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> 
> Scott McDonald schrieb in Nachricht <36B9496E.27209320@metrolink.com>...
> >http://www.urbandragons.com/new/homewardbound2.jpg
> >
> >i'm at a standstill now, a few things to do yet, and some things that i
> >just don't know how to do.
> 
> I've been trying this url since your e-mail, but I always get a read time
> out. Tracert also shows multiple time out after rtmetro1.gate.net (which was
> #17 in my route).
> 
> --
> Rudy Velthuis

It works fine for me from Germany.

Before and after your post!!!
Maybe your ISP?

Marc
-- 
Marc Schimmler


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From: Adam J Cooper
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 09:02:47
Message: <36B9A8DF.F331FECC@mediascribe.net>
I'm really impressed with how good this image is getting. Every new post
is an improvement, and it's starting to look really good--don't give up
you're almost home.

~Adam


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From: Scott McDonald
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 09:48:03
Message: <36B9B345.57697836@metrolink.com>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Scott - you did not mention where your stand still is in the
> project. Still the fog-sky-camera problem ?

yeah.  with no fog, it looks like
http://www.urbandragons.com/new/nofog.jpg

which i don't think captures the mood at all.  (and the sky is too dark
;)

with ground fog i get the pic as it looks now, which is almost right.

I can't figure focal blur out - i tried a few different things and just
couldn't get it to work at all - either everything was blurry or nothing
was.   I want the rocket and the mountains to be a little more
indistinct than they are right now.


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 10:58:34
Message: <36B9C423.38275778@spiritone.com>
Scott, all I can say is "wow" you've done it. Even I, as nitpicky as I've
been of this image, can't make another suggestion. I still want to see the
masthead for a pulp magazine over it, tho.

It's amazing what the fog does for the colors. The version without fog
looks odd, possibly becauseof the different camera position, the depth of
that image doesn't work, but it does with the fog...

btw, I'm not sure that a lot of magazine covers used focal blurs...


Scott McDonald wrote:

> http://www.urbandragons.com/new/homewardbound2.jpg
>
> i'm at a standstill now, a few things to do yet, and some things that i
> just don't know how to do.

--
Josh English
eng### [at] spiritonecom
www.spiritone.com/~english


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From: Scott McDonald
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 11:14:02
Message: <36B9C6BC.72CD815D@metrolink.com>
Josh English wrote:
> 
> Scott, all I can say is "wow" you've done it. Even I, as nitpicky as I've
> been of this image, can't make another suggestion. I still want to see the
> masthead for a pulp magazine over it, tho.

that idea i'm still playing with.  i can do it easily post production,
and have a few ideas how to do it effectively with POV but may wait for
that - getting the camera set up to get the composition i wanted in the
first place was fun enough ;)  i may have to redo the scene from near
scratch to get the perspective to make it a magazine cover...
 
> It's amazing what the fog does for the colors. The version without fog
> looks odd, possibly becauseof the different camera position, the depth of
> that image doesn't work, but it does with the fog...

yep.  fog is an amazingly wonderful thing isn't it?  :)  now if i could
just figure out media....  
 
> btw, I'm not sure that a lot of magazine covers used focal blurs...

i don't think they sent photographers out to other planets either ;) 

-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Colin Scott McDonald                                  Metro Link, Inc.|
|                     veni, vici, in dominum redirre                   |
|sco### [at] metrolinkcom                                  www.metrolink.com|
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+


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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 12:51:10
Message: <36b9de0e.0@news.povray.org>
Marc Schimmler schrieb in Nachricht
<36B9988B.F1ED49EC@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>...
>Rudy Velthuis wrote:

>> I've been trying this url since your e-mail, but I always get a read time
>> out. Tracert also shows multiple time out after rtmetro1.gate.net (which
was
>> #17 in my route).
>>
>It works fine for me from Germany.
>
>Before and after your post!!!
>Maybe your ISP?


I'm in Germany too. Could be my ISP (Cityweb, but I want to change), but
why? I can tracert until rtmetro1.gate.net. After that I always get a time
out (I just tried again a few times).

Now I just tried another ISP (Arcor by call) and I got it in a few seconds.
Makes you think, doesn't it? I really should change ISP - preferrably to one
which doesn't charge by the minute anyway.

Really is a great picture! The rocket looks like the one from the Tintin
books. And it really looks like a sequel to Simon de Vet's astronaut. Nice
idea and a terrific skull.

--
Rudy Velthuis


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From: Jason Scheuerman
Subject: Re: url to homewardbound2.jpg
Date: 4 Feb 1999 15:52:21
Message: <36BA0917.1AC0C900@null.net>
Excellent scene.
How did you do the skull? And can I get a copy?  I'm working on a scene
that is going to need one :-)

Jason Scheuerman
mt### [at] nullnet

Scott McDonald wrote:

> http://www.urbandragons.com/new/homewardbound2.jpg
>
> i'm at a standstill now, a few things to do yet, and some things that i
> just don't know how to do.


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