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From: Anders K 
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 09:40:00
Message: <3b98ce30$1@news.povray.org>
> Given that 9x/ME varients of Monopoly OS doesn't have any real multiuser
> support in the first place,

No, that's not at all true. Windows 9x definately has multiuser support. Go
to Start > Settings > Control Panel > Users.

Although, since it will probably be a minority of users that will need this,
perhaps you should just document how to change it if you need to, instead of
making it an install option. But either way, the program should *look* in
both places.

Anders


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 09:42:57
Message: <3b98cee1@news.povray.org>
> Noting, of course, that the installer no longer asks that question for
> the same reason, that people don't read.

Or have been installing POV the old way for so long they assume they did see
that question asked while installing. ^_^*


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 11:38:58
Message: <3b98ea12@news.povray.org>
In article <slr### [at] fwicom> , ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron
Parker) wrote:

> For the next month.  What's it do when XP comes out and Joe Luser is
> running a multiuser operating system but doesn't know it?

And even better, one can't even be sure if a user runs as Administrator on
NT/2k/etc because at least I know plenty of people who have no clue that
they shouldn't run that way by default...


    Thorsten


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From: Anders K 
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 12:26:12
Message: <3b98f524@news.povray.org>
> And even better, one can't even be sure if a user runs as Administrator on
> NT/2k/etc because at least I know plenty of people who have no clue that
> they shouldn't run that way by default...

I think that in the Home Edition of Windows XP, all users are
Administrators.

Anders


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 12:29:21
Message: <slrn9phtf3.59j.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 12:26:27 -0400, Anders K. wrote:
>> And even better, one can't even be sure if a user runs as Administrator on
>> NT/2k/etc because at least I know plenty of people who have no clue that
>> they shouldn't run that way by default...
>
>I think that in the Home Edition of Windows XP, all users are
>Administrators.

Actually, I'm not sure that's true, but I'm also not sure what I can
say about that, so I'll keep my mouth shut.

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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 22:43:00
Message: <3b9985b4$1@news.povray.org>
> I stand corrected <sigh>.
>
> I thought everyone knew to press alt-printscreen and paste into a graphics
> package....

lol


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 22:46:07
Message: <3b99866f$1@news.povray.org>
> > For the next month.  What's it do when XP comes out and Joe Luser is
> > running a multiuser operating system but doesn't know it?
>
> And even better, one can't even be sure if a user runs as Administrator on
> NT/2k/etc because at least I know plenty of people who have no clue that
> they shouldn't run that way by default...

Wouldn't this all depend on the user and the machine he's on? If your using
a home machine which you and ONLY you use and you have taken reasonable
security precautions, and is fairly well versed in windows, then I don't see
much of a problem running in Admin all the time.


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 7 Sep 2001 23:18:58
Message: <3b998e22@news.povray.org>
> Well, you could have the program could look in both HKCU and HKLM. Then if

What I intend to do is this: if the user is an administrator (or any user if
on W95/98/ME), I will create 'template' entries in the HKLM hive that are there
to be copied into the HKCU hive the first time POV is run under a user account
that doesn't have the HKCU entries for POVWIN.

If the installing user doesn't have write permission to HKLM, only the HKCU
entry will be made.

-- Chris


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 8 Sep 2001 10:40:10
Message: <3b9a2dca@news.povray.org>
In article <3b99866f$1@news.povray.org> , "Thomas Lake" <tla### [at] homecom> 
wrote:

>> And even better, one can't even be sure if a user runs as Administrator on
>> NT/2k/etc because at least I know plenty of people who have no clue that
>> they shouldn't run that way by default...
>
> Wouldn't this all depend on the user and the machine he's on? If your using
> a home machine which you and ONLY you use and you have taken reasonable
> security precautions, and is fairly well versed in windows, then I don't see
> much of a problem running in Admin all the time.

Indeed, there aren't many reasons in such a case, but for example viruses
are a typical user problem because people don't manage to install anti-virus
software.  If running as admin and you get such problems the only way to get
out of it (most of the time) is to reinstall the system.  If running as user
(provided a reasonable setup) it should be possible to recover data more
easily as at least the system should still be functioning (allowing to
install the anti-virus software after the system is infected) in most cases,
but of course, theory and practice running Windows are different... ;-)

    Thorsten

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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: a access problem as NT-User
Date: 8 Sep 2001 14:55:43
Message: <3b9a69af@news.povray.org>
"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:3B9821DF.A3C1118B@pacbell.net...
>
>
> Francois Labreque wrote:
>
> > Couldn't the install program ask if you want to instal a "personal" or
> > "global" copy of the software?
>
> Would the average Win 95-98 user know the terminology and be reasonably
> expected to choose correctly ? The answer is no.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler

Is there some way of checking if the current user is the administrator?  If
so, then give an option for a global install, otherwise a personal install
would be better.

Just my 2 cents,

...Chambers


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