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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 03:51:54
Message: <44d6f11a$1@news.povray.org>
Since I installed Moray on my new PC (Windows XP), the program has 
difficulty starting. When the flash screen indicates 'initializing', the 
frames do not appear, and the surface remains transparant to other 
programs/background. After some manipulation, mainly involving clicking at 
random on the screen, the frames appear one by one. This happens faster if I 
select a new scene instead of the last opened. Otherwise, everything works 
normally.

Any idea?

Thomas


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From: Marc
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 04:23:40
Message: <44d6f88c@news.povray.org>

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> Any idea?
Maybe an issue with you graphic drivers?

Marc


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 05:05:00
Message: <web.44d70220c0b3e4a9b1b469160@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> Since I installed Moray on my new PC (Windows XP), the program has
> difficulty starting. When the flash screen indicates 'initializing', the
> frames do not appear, and the surface remains transparant to other
> programs/background. After some manipulation, mainly involving clicking at
> random on the screen, the frames appear one by one. This happens faster if I
> select a new scene instead of the last opened. Otherwise, everything works
> normally.
>
> Any idea?
>
> Thomas


I think Marc is right have you updated them to the latest drivers. I assume


Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 08:05:57
Message: <44d72ca5$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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>
>
> I think Marc is right have you updated them to the latest drivers. I 
> assume
> that you have dropped Lutz an email, if not.
>

As far as I can tell, everything is updated to the last versions...
What I don't understand in this instance is that the Moray version is 
*older* than the soft/hardware. So what is this about latest drivers???? I 
am really a total moron on PC architecture...

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 10:10:01
Message: <web.44d748c6c0b3e4a9b1b469160@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht
> news:web.44d70220c0b3e4a9b1b469160@news.povray.org...
> >
> >
> > I think Marc is right have you updated them to the latest drivers. I
> > assume
> > that you have dropped Lutz an email, if not.
> >
>
> As far as I can tell, everything is updated to the last versions...
> What I don't understand in this instance is that the Moray version is
> *older* than the soft/hardware. So what is this about latest drivers???? I
> am really a total moron on PC architecture...
>

Thomas

Firstly, lack of knowledge does not map to moron :-)
Thirdly, a the graphic drivers do the drawing on the screen so if they are
not the latest they might be buggy.
Finally, when a new pc is shipped it might not have all the latest versions
of hardware drivers.



bonnet of these calculating machines.

Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 10:36:16
Message: <44d74fe0$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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> Firstly, lack of knowledge does not map to moron :-)
I know, I know :-)

> Thirdly, a the graphic drivers do the drawing on the screen so if they are
> not the latest they might be buggy.
Indeed. What makes me wonder is that only Moray shows problems. No other 
(more recent) graphic software I have installed...

> Finally, when a new pc is shipped it might not have all the latest 
> versions
> of hardware drivers.
Indeed. However, it automatically updates all drivers when available, so I 
assume.....

> Secondly, don't tell warp :-)
I won't!!! :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 10:40:23
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"Marc" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schreef in bericht 
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>

> news:44d6f11a$1@news.povray.org...
>> Any idea?
> Maybe an issue with you graphic drivers?
>
Thought about that. However, see my answers to Stephen.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 11:40:00
Message: <web.44d75e21c0b3e4a9b1b469160@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht
> news:web.44d748c6c0b3e4a9b1b469160@news.povray.org...
>
> > Thirdly, a the graphic drivers do the drawing on the screen so if they are
> > not the latest they might be buggy.
> Indeed. What makes me wonder is that only Moray shows problems. No other
> (more recent) graphic software I have installed...

!!! Lutz!!!

> > Finally, when a new pc is shipped it might not have all the latest
> > versions
> > of hardware drivers.
> Indeed. However, it automatically updates all drivers when available, so I
> assume.....

The road to Hell is paved with assumptions, or something like that.

It is a b*gg*r when software you rely on stops working :-(



> > Secondly, don't tell warp :-)
> I won't!!! :-)

LOL

Stephen


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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 7 Aug 2006 12:19:08
Message: <44d767fc$1@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message 
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>
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
> news:web.44d70220c0b3e4a9b1b469160@news.povray.org...
>>
>>
>> I think Marc is right have you updated them to the latest drivers. I 
>> assume
>> that you have dropped Lutz an email, if not.
>>
>
> As far as I can tell, everything is updated to the last versions...
> What I don't understand in this instance is that the Moray version is 
> *older* than the soft/hardware. So what is this about latest drivers???? I 
> am really a total moron on PC architecture...
>
> Thomas
>

Thomas,
Your problem could be just the opposite. See the thread, "Moray no longer 
works :( ".
Steve Shelby


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Difficulty starting Moray
Date: 8 Aug 2006 03:28:45
Message: <44d83d2d@news.povray.org>
"Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] shelbyvisioncom> schreef in bericht 
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>
>
> Thomas,
> Your problem could be just the opposite. See the thread, "Moray no longer 
> works :( ".
> Steve Shelby
Yes indeed. I have been thinking along that line too...

Just have to contact Lutz, I guess, to be sure....

Thomas


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