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From: JayHolly
Subject: Help with bent tubes
Date: 11 Jan 1999 16:09:49
Message: <369A67F8.F40458EC@lineone.net>

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I am new to Moray and POV and am having difficulty creating bent tubes.
I am trying to model a Mountain bike handlebar and other "bendy stuff"
such as the cables and frame.
<p>Thanks in advance - Jayholly.</html>

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From: Alex Magidow
Subject: Re: Help with bent tubes
Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:16:07
Message: <369A7731.377B4FF4@mninter.net>

My favorite tool for doing that would be STOMP 3D. It has extrude along
spline path functions, NURBS and a few other cool features. And its 100%
free. The only down side is that it doesn't export to Moray. But, if you
get enough conversion utilities, you can convert the files to a moray
UDO/INC file.

http://holly.colostate.edu/~tschrein/Stomp/Stomp.html

JayHolly wrote:

>  I am new to Moray and POV and am having difficulty creating bent
> tubes. I am trying to model a Mountain bike handlebar and other "bendy
> stuff" such as the cables and frame.
>
> Thanks in advance - Jayholly.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Help with bent tubes
Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:24:26
Message: <369A79A0.963572D5@pacbell.net>

Alex Magidow wrote:

> My favorite tool for doing that would be STOMP 3D. It has extrude along
> spline path functions, NURBS and a few other cool features. And its 100%
> free. The only down side is that it doesn't export to Moray. But, if you
> get enough conversion utilities, you can convert the files to a moray
> UDO/INC file.
>
> http://holly.colostate.edu/~tschrein/Stomp/Stomp.html
>
> JayHolly wrote:
>
> >  I am new to Moray and POV and am having difficulty creating bent
> > tubes. I am trying to model a Mountain bike handlebar and other "bendy
> > stuff" such as the cables and frame.
> >
> > Thanks in advance - Jayholly.
>
> --
> Gods don't save people. People save people.

  ... or if you would like to avoid learning a whole new modeling process,
a large download, and gain a useful utility that was designed soley for this

pupose try the all new program called Piper by Mike Weber.

It can be found at:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/8625/piper/piper.html

Ken Tyler

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From: Alex Magidow
Subject: Re: Help with bent tubes
Date: 11 Jan 1999 22:31:20
Message: <369AC112.92B276E9@mninter.net>

Ken wrote:

> Alex Magidow wrote:
>
> > My favorite tool for doing that would be STOMP 3D. It has extrude along
> > spline path functions, NURBS and a few other cool features. And its 100%
> > free. The only down side is that it doesn't export to Moray. But, if you
> > get enough conversion utilities, you can convert the files to a moray
> > UDO/INC file.
> >
> > http://holly.colostate.edu/~tschrein/Stomp/Stomp.html
> >
> > JayHolly wrote:
> >
> > >  I am new to Moray and POV and am having difficulty creating bent
> > > tubes. I am trying to model a Mountain bike handlebar and other "bendy
> > > stuff" such as the cables and frame.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance - Jayholly.
> >
> > --
> > Gods don't save people. People save people.
>
>   ... or if you would like to avoid learning a whole new modeling process,
> a large download, and gain a useful utility that was designed soley for this
>
> pupose try the all new program called Piper by Mike Weber.
>
> It can be found at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/8625/piper/piper.html

This looks like it only codes for b-spline camera paths.

>
>
> Ken Tyler



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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Help with bent tubes
Date: 11 Jan 1999 22:43:40
Message: <369AC473.7EC35C57@pacbell.net>

Alex Magidow wrote:

>
>
> Ken wrote:
>
>> Alex Magidow wrote:
>>
>> > My favorite tool for doing that would be STOMP 3D. It has extrude along
>> > spline path functions, NURBS and a few other cool features. And its 100%
>> > free. The only down side is that it doesn't export to Moray. But, if you
>> > get enough conversion utilities, you can convert the files to a moray
>> > UDO/INC file.
>> >
>> > http://holly.colostate.edu/~tschrein/Stomp/Stomp.html
>> >
>> > JayHolly wrote:
>> >
>> > >  I am new to Moray and POV and am having difficulty creating bent
>> > > tubes. I am trying to model a Mountain bike handlebar and other "bendy
>> > > stuff" such as the cables and frame.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance - Jayholly.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gods don't save people. People save people.
>>
>>   ... or if you would like to avoid learning a whole new modeling process,
>> a large download, and gain a useful utility that was designed soley for this
>>
>> pupose try the all new program called Piper by Mike Weber.
>>
>> It can be found at:
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/8625/piper/piper.html
>
> This looks like it only codes for b-spline camera paths.

It also does tubes/pipes. Such is the reason for the name ofthe utility. I helped do a
little
beta work on it before his public
release so I know it will do curved tubes/pipes.

Ken Tyler

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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Help with bent tubes
Date: 12 Jan 1999 06:02:51
Message: <369b2bdb.0@news.povray.org>

JayHolly wrote in message <369A67F8.F40458EC@lineone.net>...
    I am new to Moray and POV and am having difficulty creating bent 
tubes. I am trying to model a Mountain bike handlebar and other "bendy 
stuff" such as the cables and frame. 
    Thanks in advance - Jayholly. 

If you want to model (not script) your objects, and also do this in a 
modeller that can export to Moray format, try TreeDesigner at 
http://www.algonet.se/~jhubert/TreeDesigner.

Although TD was meant for trees, a bike-frame can be easily created with 
TD.

Note: TD does not model "real" curved/bent objects, but rather 
approaches "bendedness" by putting together lots of cylinders: The more 
(and shorter) cylinders, the higher the "resolution" of the "pipe" and 
the less visible (and soon invisible) it is, that the pipe is assembled 
out of lots of small straight cylinders (actually the same concept as it 
underlies the usage of triangle-meshes to create smooth shaped objects: 
The more triangles, the smoother...)

Greetings,

Johannes.

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From: Alex Magidow
Subject: Re: Help with bent tubes
Date: 12 Jan 1999 08:06:59
Message: <369B47FE.1856A82@mninter.net>

The files it exports have a ton of triangles, though. STOMP 3D files tend to have a
lot less,
even for the same sized creation. Besides, STOMP 3D is a genuininely useful program.
Piper is as
well, but you can only make the pipes- you can't deform them in any way after that.

Ken wrote:

> Alex Magidow wrote:
>
>
> >> pupose try the all new program called Piper by Mike Weber.
> >>
> >> It can be found at:
> >>
> >> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/8625/piper/piper.html
> >
> > This looks like it only codes for b-spline camera paths.
>
> It also does tubes/pipes. Such is the reason for the name ofthe utility. I helped do
a little
> beta work on it before his public
> release so I know it will do curved tubes/pipes.
>
> Ken Tyler

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