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From: St 
Subject: Your model of an existing image. What to do...?
Date: 10 Feb 2003 18:38:09
Message: <3e4837e1@news.povray.org>
I've sPatched and then povrayed a model of an an existing image, but
what's the irtc etiquette with this? I.E., what do you actually do in
your irtc submission? Do you give a link to the image in your text
file so that others can see a difference in your image, (if any!)  ;)
or not?

   Personal preference?

    ~Steve~


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Your model of an existing image. What to do...?
Date: 10 Feb 2003 21:39:50
Message: <3E48627A.1090000@videotron.ca>
Program ended abnormally on 2/10/03 6:37 PM, Due to a catastrophic St.
error:
> I've sPatched and then povrayed a model of an an existing image, but
> what's the irtc etiquette with this? I.E., what do you actually do in
> your irtc submission? Do you give a link to the image in your text
> file so that others can see a difference in your image, (if any!)  ;)
> or not?

That is entirely up to the voters, I guess.  If you acknowledge that 
your are doing a reproduction, then I don't think anyone would mind.

On the other hand, if you try to sneak one in and someone finds out...

> 
>    Personal preference?

I'd say go with original stuff, but then again my only entry ever in the 
IRTC was a reproduction, so don't listen to me.

-- 
/*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro P(F//
/*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/*        @        */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/*   videotron.ca  */}camera{orthographic location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a }


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Your model of an existing image. What to do...?
Date: 11 Feb 2003 00:09:56
Message: <3e4885a4@news.povray.org>
"Francois Labreque" <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote in message
news:3E4### [at] videotronca...
>
>
> Program ended abnormally on 2/10/03 6:37 PM, Due to a catastrophic
St.
> error:

     :)


> > I've sPatched and then povrayed a model of an an existing image,
but
> > what's the irtc etiquette with this? I.E., what do you actually do
in
> > your irtc submission? Do you give a link to the image in your text
> > file so that others can see a difference in your image, (if any!)
;)
> > or not?
>
> That is entirely up to the voters, I guess.  If you acknowledge that
> your are doing a reproduction, then I don't think anyone would mind.
>
> On the other hand, if you try to sneak one in and someone finds
out...

   You mean that I might be tarred and feathered?!  :oO

>
> >
> >    Personal preference?
>
> I'd say go with original stuff, but then again my only entry ever in
the
> IRTC was a reproduction, so don't listen to me.

   Heh, ok, maybe I should have explained a little more. I'm only
using an image as a reference guide of the 'Old Technology' modelled,
I haven't modelled the whole scene that's depicted in the image.

   So, do I give a link to that image, so that the judges can see what
my model 'should' look like, or do I leave them thinking that my model
is the bees-knees?  ;)

  What do others do?

  Thank you Francois.

   ~Steve~


>
> --
> /*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro
P(F//
> /*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end
union
> /*        @
*/{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
> /*   videotron.ca  */}camera{orthographic location<6,1.25,-6>look_at
a }
>


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From: Slashdolt
Subject: Re: Your model of an existing image. What to do...?
Date: 11 Feb 2003 08:38:00
Message: <3e48fcb8$1@news.povray.org>
>    Heh, ok, maybe I should have explained a little more. I'm only
> using an image as a reference guide of the 'Old Technology' modelled,
> I haven't modelled the whole scene that's depicted in the image.
>
>    So, do I give a link to that image, so that the judges can see what
> my model 'should' look like, or do I leave them thinking that my model
> is the bees-knees?  ;)
>

I have several models in my IRTC entry that are modelled from various
sources on the Internet.  I used lots of photographs as a reference, but I'm
not planning to list them.  I just plan to state the fact.  Actually, I'm
not even sure where I gathered all of the photos from anymore, since many of
them were from Google's image search, and sometimes I'd be working with 2 or
3 different photos from different sources.  Another reason, is that my
models are not "perfect".  Some details were left out and/or changed simply
because they would have been more difficult to render in POV.  I assume that
everyone does that, but why give the judges an exact photo so that they can
say, "Hmmm...  Your model doesn't include the widget on the left side which
I see in this picture, but would have otherwise never known about..."

I happened to find a nice texture resource, which is actually a web-retailer
site with pictures of their products, that just happened to make excellent
textures.  I emailed the site owner, and asked for permission to use the
textures.  I had a feeling that he'd have no idea what I was talking about,
but he was actually very helpful and agreed to let me use the textures.  For
my project, it was quite a find.  I'm not sure I could have duplicated the
nice textures by hand without them looking really bad.  I plan to put a link
to his site, and I'll probably send him a link to view my final render.

--
Slash


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From: pan
Subject: Re: Your model of an existing image. What to do...?
Date: 11 Feb 2003 09:30:49
Message: <3e490919@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:3e4837e1@news.povray.org...
> I've sPatched and then povrayed a model of an an existing image, but
> what's the irtc etiquette with this? I.E., what do you actually do in
> your irtc submission? Do you give a link to the image in your text
> file so that others can see a difference in your image, (if any!)  ;)
> or not?
>

Including a link to an image you've used to model from would be a
nice addition to your entry form. Doing so will add interest to the
judging of your entry - more to look at and more to think about.

Any risk of  showing a badly done reproduction will be offset by
your obvious willingness to amplify a judge's understanding
and to make background data more complete.

Other judges may differ in their opinion, of course.

Too many entrants include too little information about their
work.

pan


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From: Txemi Jendrix
Subject: RE: Your model of an existing image. What to do...?
Date: 11 Feb 2003 14:38:28
Message: <3e495134@news.povray.org>

3e4837e1@news.povray.org...
> I've sPatched and then povrayed a model of an an existing image, but
> what's the irtc etiquette with this? I.E., what do you actually do in
> your irtc submission? Do you give a link to the image in your text
> file so that others can see a difference in your image, (if any!)  ;)
> or not?

I made a reproduction of an existing image for the IRTC.
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2000-12-31/escher.jpg
The original was a lithography made by Escher.
In the text file I put the link to the original work.
The result was a very low ranking in concept (53)
even though I think is one of my best works :-(.

>    Personal preference?

I always try to give as many links as possible.

>     ~Steve~

Txemi Jendrix
http://www.txemijendrix.com


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Your model of an existing image. What to do...?
Date: 11 Feb 2003 16:33:02
Message: <3e496c0e@news.povray.org>
Yes, thanks all. I think I'll go ahead with the link thing anyway.
It's a great piece of 'old technology' imo*, and I think I've got it
right. I'm a little more concerned with the background at the moment,
so look out for the image in .pbi... Coming your way soon!  ;)

 *Actually, I'll be surprised if someone else hasn't done this too...

    Heh. We'll see...

    ~Steve~


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