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On 26-Aug-08 16:04, Invisible wrote:
> scott wrote:
>
>>> ...so they won't be remotely interested in me then?
>>
>> I would think that Haskell would be quite suited to some of their
>> problems.
>
> Hmm. Interesting. The careers advisor I was speaking to when Phil posted
> this actually suggested that I look at "financial abstraction" as a
> potential target area. He said that large financial companies often
> employ people for developing complex financial models, and although it's
> not "programming" as such, it involves those kinds of skills.
>
> But then, this same guy also suggested I look into programming computer
> games - especially since those jobs aren't all in London.
>
> Because, you know, it's not as if every computer nerd on Earth wants to
> go into games programming or anything like that, is it? ._.
>
> Anyway, looking at the actual vacancies at Paragon, it seems all of them
> want "demonstratable experience" with C#, which I obviously don't have.
> (I can see one job who's wording is sufficiently ambiguous that it might
> be construed as meaning you only need experience with Excel or SQL -
> which obviously I have.)
>
Did I tell you that we are trying to get a new project funded where we
possibly could use an Android PhD student? (One of the reasons I am a
bit quite lately). That project has the obvious drawbacks for the real
Andrew that it would be in Amsterdam (or possibly also more in the
eastern part of the Netherlands) in a group with about 50% or more
women. Reasons to assume that you might fit in is that when creating a
team (4-5 people) we need someone to keep me and another post-doc
focussed. We will be handling large amounts of data and biological
samples that will have to be processed acording to standard procedures
(not my strongest point). Not afraid of maths is a good point, and
graphics related problems will be a large part of it. It may result in a
startup, so experience outside the university would be positive. Also
needed will be programming experience and anatomical knowledge. Not sure
how you score on that, but as I said we need to create a team with
complementary skills. Don't count on it yet, we still have to write
large parts of the grant application(s), but we need at least something
granted next june or so, to continue my status as a perpetual post-doc.
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>> I would think that Haskell would be quite suited to some of their
>> problems.
>
> Hmm. Interesting. The careers advisor I was speaking to when Phil posted
> this actually suggested that I look at "financial abstraction" as a
> potential target area. He said that large financial companies often employ
> people for developing complex financial models, and although it's not
> "programming" as such, it involves those kinds of skills.
Exactly, any industry where dealing with numerical models is their core
business will be crying out for people like you. Like insurance companies
too. From the degree I did (Engineering), the single sector that most
people went on to work in was finance! Banks and insurance companies don't
make any physical products, they make their money by simply making clever
decisions, which are based on models designed by clever people.
As an example, imagine you have the records of millions of people (including
address, age, etc) and a list of every single insurance claim they have ever
made. Now write a program to decide how much each person's insurance
premium should be to make the maximum profit. That program is absolutely
critical to the success or failure of an insurance company. They are not
going to get some idiot to just think up some numbers that look about right.
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scott wrote:
> Exactly, any industry where dealing with numerical models is their core
> business will be crying out for people like you. Like insurance
> companies too. From the degree I did (Engineering), the single sector
> that most people went on to work in was finance! Banks and insurance
> companies don't make any physical products, they make their money by
> simply making clever decisions, which are based on models designed by
> clever people.
>
> As an example, imagine you have the records of millions of people
> (including address, age, etc) and a list of every single insurance claim
> they have ever made. Now write a program to decide how much each
> person's insurance premium should be to make the maximum profit. That
> program is absolutely critical to the success or failure of an insurance
> company. They are not going to get some idiot to just think up some
> numbers that look about right.
The obvious problem with _finance_ is that almost all of it is done in
London. But perhaps I can find something similar in a more acceptable
location...
I think I might send an open letter to Paragon just for giggles. You
know, a while back, I emailed Ryan Giess. (As in, *the* Ryan Giess.)
That was a few years ago now. But yesterday, I got an email from him
saying he's released a software update! Who'd have thought...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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> know, a while back, I emailed Ryan Giess. (As in, *the* Ryan Giess.) That
> was a few years ago now. But yesterday, I got an email from him saying
> he's released a software update! Who'd have thought...
Oh wow, I never realised that the Geiss behind that uber cool WinAmp plugin
I used to have was the same Geiss that wrote the cascades demo for nVidia.
Yes, he's cool in my books :-)
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scott wrote:
>> know, a while back, I emailed Ryan Giess. (As in, *the* Ryan Giess.)
>> That was a few years ago now. But yesterday, I got an email from him
>> saying he's released a software update! Who'd have thought...
>
> Oh wow, I never realised that the Geiss behind that uber cool WinAmp
> plugin I used to have was the same Geiss that wrote the cascades demo
> for nVidia. Yes, he's cool in my books :-)
Yeah, well apparently he just updated the Giess plugin for WinAmp.
(Nothing major, just removed a few unecessary limitations and so on.) In
his words, "10 years ago I didn't really know much about developing
Windows applications properly".
I was actually writing to him asking about the exact algorithms used in
the WinAmp plugin... I guess he didn't get back to me because he wasn't
working on the code any more. ;-)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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And lo on Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:04:47 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> did
spake, saying:
> scott wrote:
>
>>> ...so they won't be remotely interested in me then?
>> I would think that Haskell would be quite suited to some of their
>> problems.
>
> Anyway, looking at the actual vacancies at Paragon, it seems all of them
> want "demonstratable experience" with C#, which I obviously don't have.
> (I can see one job who's wording is sufficiently ambiguous that it might
> be construed as meaning you only need experience with Excel or SQL -
> which obviously I have.)
Pffh as I said they're looking for creative numerates and that ain't a big
pool to pick from. If your only failing is that you don't have C#
experience, but show an apptitude for picking up programming languages
they should bite. Hell show them some Haskell stuff and they might hire
you just to teach everyone else how to use it.
Just remeber if you get the job I want my finder's fee ;-)
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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Doctor John wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Doctor John wrote:
>>> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> Oh the irony of that. Looking at the timestamp on this message, at
>>>> the moment you posted it, I was in Stewart House on the corner of
>>>> Russell Square talking to a man about how to improve my job
>>>> searching...
>>>>
>>>> (Yes, I walked past the Jack Horner on the way. I did think about
>>>> meantioning it on here - but I figured nobody would be around at
>>>> that time of day anyway.)
>>>
>>> You could have phoned :-)
>>> I would have made time to meet you
>>
>> I don't have your number...
>>
> Ah, that explains it :-)
> Ask Stephen and he'll give it to you; I'm not going to post it here
>
> John
>
Hey guys!
He doesn't trust us!
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Tom Austin wrote:
>> Ask Stephen and he'll give it to you; I'm not going to post it here
>
> Hey guys!
>
> He doesn't trust us!
Us? Or the web spiders crawling www.povray.org? ;-)
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Phil Cook wrote:
> Pffh as I said they're looking for creative numerates and that ain't a
> big pool to pick from.
Perhaps.
> If your only failing is that you don't have C#
> experience, but show an apptitude for picking up programming languages
> they should bite.
It seems there are two kinds of companies. There are companies who want
to hire somebody who is qualified to do this *right now*. And there are
companies who want to hire people who have a proven ability to learn
stuff, so they can *teach* you to do whatever it is.
Obviously, the second group represents my best bet. (I have a
practically *certified* ability to learn stuff! Dijkstra's shunting
algorithm, anyone?)
> Hell show them some Haskell stuff and they might hire
> you just to teach everyone else how to use it.
LOL! Or run away screaming. ;-)
> Just remeber if you get the job I want my finder's fee ;-)
Not... *25* respect points? 0_0
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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And lo on Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:26:48 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
spake, saying:
> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> Pffh as I said they're looking for creative numerates and that ain't a
>> big pool to pick from.
>
> Perhaps.
>
>> If your only failing is that you don't have C# experience, but show an
>> apptitude for picking up programming languages they should bite.
>
> It seems there are two kinds of companies. There are companies who want
> to hire somebody who is qualified to do this *right now*. And there are
> companies who want to hire people who have a proven ability to learn
> stuff, so they can *teach* you to do whatever it is.
>
> Obviously, the second group represents my best bet. (I have a
> practically *certified* ability to learn stuff! Dijkstra's shunting
> algorithm, anyone?)
This is an expanding company I'd think they'd want people who can learn
'stuff'
>> Just remeber if you get the job I want my finder's fee ;-)
>
> Not... *25* respect points? 0_0
Are they redeemable on Amazon? :-P
apptitude? remeber? Yeesh, damn stuttering fingers.
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Phil Cook
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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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