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On 03/03/2011 9:49 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
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> Sounds like a pretty bad offer all said. Shame, that.
>
It was from one of those Indian consultancies that do as much work
offshore as possible, pay below the line rates and somehow convince
their clients that they do quality work.
>
> That wouldn't be very high risk health-wise, unless you were in the 'bad'
> part of Chicago. ;-)
>
I try to stay clear of "the bad parts" as I was brought up in one of the
bad parts of Glasgow. ;-)
>
> Yeah, so those you probably would have needed coverage for here unless
> you could bring a large enough supply (and then you'd have to check on
> legality of bringing them in, too. I want to say that paracetamol is an
> example of something that's not offered here in the US - as an example,
> but there are equivalents.
>
I did not know that about paracetamol in the US. My doctor gave me a
prescription for it so I can get it in bulk. Although it is "over the
counter" here in the UK, you are not allowed to buy more than two
packets at the one time.
>> Did I ever say that twice I've worked round the clock on the day the
>> clocks went back? Try putting that on a time sheet. ;-)
>
> Egads, that must've been fun. :-)
>
I was younger then and got paid for the first time. The second time I
was a staff and only got sleeping time.
>
> I'll have to remember that you are an SAP person, I actually spent some
> time at the conference talking to someone who works for SAP (in their
> education department) based in Germany (though she's originally from the
> Midlands).
>
> If the discussions she and I had at the conference turn up anything, I
> may need your input on some things. :-)
>
No problem but remember I'm "Logistics" specifically Plant Maintenance
and Customer Service.
--
Regards
Stephen
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>> Sounds like a pretty bad offer all said. Shame, that.
>
> It was from one of those Indian consultancies that do as much work
> offshore as possible, pay below the line rates and somehow convince
> their clients that they do quality work.
What, you mean low prices /= high quality? Who would have known?
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Le 04/03/2011 13:13, Stephen a écrit :
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> I did not know that about paracetamol in the US. My doctor gave me a
> prescription for it so I can get it in bulk. Although it is "over the
> counter" here in the UK, you are not allowed to buy more than two
> packets at the one time.
This is due to the lethality of paracetamol.
Destroying the liver is a bad omen for your survival.
And it's so easy: 4g / 24h and it's already toxic.
--
Software is like dirt - it costs time and money to change it and move it
around.
Just because you can't see it, it doesn't weigh anything,
and you can't drill a hole in it and stick a rivet into it doesn't mean
it's free.
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On 04/03/2011 12:24 PM, Invisible wrote:
>>> Sounds like a pretty bad offer all said. Shame, that.
>>
>> It was from one of those Indian consultancies that do as much work
>> offshore as possible, pay below the line rates and somehow convince
>> their clients that they do quality work.
>
> What, you mean low prices /= high quality? Who would have known?
Bean counters. But to be fair SAP implementations are very expensive
running into millions and millions of pounds.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 04/03/2011 1:30 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 04/03/2011 13:13, Stephen a écrit :
>>
>> I did not know that about paracetamol in the US. My doctor gave me a
>> prescription for it so I can get it in bulk. Although it is "over the
>> counter" here in the UK, you are not allowed to buy more than two
>> packets at the one time.
>
> This is due to the lethality of paracetamol.
> Destroying the liver is a bad omen for your survival.
> And it's so easy: 4g / 24h and it's already toxic.
>
I know and it doesn't always kill you. I once met a young woman who was
confined to a wheelchair because of an overdose. :-(
--
Regards
Stephen
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>> What, you mean low prices /= high quality? Who would have known?
>
> Bean counters.
No, they of all people seem to look only at cost, ignoring benefits.
> But to be fair SAP implementations are very expensive
> running into millions and millions of pounds.
Maybe. All I know is that these days people put words like "value" and
"economy" on products, suggesting that these things are "good value".
Value is the *ratio* of cost to benefit. Simply reducing the price does
*not* increase the value unless the quality remains the same. But your
typical "value" item, while very much *cheaper*, is also very much
*lower quality*. If you compute the cost/benefit, it's probably far
*worse* value.
Sorry, that just annoys me... As you were, men.
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:13:13 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> On 03/03/2011 9:49 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a pretty bad offer all said. Shame, that.
>>
> It was from one of those Indian consultancies that do as much work
> offshore as possible, pay below the line rates and somehow convince
> their clients that they do quality work.
Gotta love that. Or not. ;-)
>> That wouldn't be very high risk health-wise, unless you were in the
>> 'bad' part of Chicago. ;-)
>>
> I try to stay clear of "the bad parts" as I was brought up in one of the
> bad parts of Glasgow. ;-)
That seems like a good plan no matter where you are. :-)
>> Yeah, so those you probably would have needed coverage for here unless
>> you could bring a large enough supply (and then you'd have to check on
>> legality of bringing them in, too. I want to say that paracetamol is
>> an example of something that's not offered here in the US - as an
>> example, but there are equivalents.
>>
> I did not know that about paracetamol in the US. My doctor gave me a
> prescription for it so I can get it in bulk. Although it is "over the
> counter" here in the UK, you are not allowed to buy more than two
> packets at the one time.
I'm pretty sure that was it, I'll ask Amy when she gets back from her
class because she does know the details on what/why.
>> Egads, that must've been fun. :-)
>>
> I was younger then and got paid for the first time. The second time I
> was a staff and only got sleeping time.
I remember being hourly in IT - management 'threatened' to make us salary
so they could make us work 24x7 and not pay us appropriately. Needless
to say, that got shouted down. ;-)
>> I'll have to remember that you are an SAP person, I actually spent some
>> time at the conference talking to someone who works for SAP (in their
>> education department) based in Germany (though she's originally from
>> the Midlands).
>>
>> If the discussions she and I had at the conference turn up anything, I
>> may need your input on some things. :-)
>>
> No problem but remember I'm "Logistics" specifically Plant Maintenance
> and Customer Service.
Good to know. :-)
Jim
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On 3/4/2011 8:30 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 04/03/2011 13:13, Stephen a écrit :
>>
>> I did not know that about paracetamol in the US. My doctor gave me a
>> prescription for it so I can get it in bulk. Although it is "over the
>> counter" here in the UK, you are not allowed to buy more than two
>> packets at the one time.
>
> This is due to the lethality of paracetamol.
> Destroying the liver is a bad omen for your survival.
> And it's so easy: 4g / 24h and it's already toxic.
Plain ol' paracetamol is over the counter in the US, in doses that would
probably make your head spin anywhere else. 500 to 650mg pills, in 30 to
90 count bottles. It's the additives that start moving it up the list of
'controlled substances'. All of the co-codamols are schedule III in the
US, requiring a prescription and a doctor to justify why they give them
out; and they still only give out #3s. The other mixes are not mentioned
much. Darvon+paracematol was schedule IV, less paperwork for the
doctors, but is being recalled because someone thought 650mg of para
taken 4 to 6 times a day was dangerous. Hydro-codone + para is still
schedule III, everything else is schedule II. And if it is scheduled,
you will need a doctor to sign a prescription for it. Not that customs
at the airport will stop you for bringing them in, a friend's dad
brought in several boxes of co-codamols from London, when I joked that
they were not as easily purchased in the US. He just went to different
pharmacies to get the two box limit several times over.
OTC, you can get stuff like caffine and phenyltoloxamine, or allergy or
sleep meds mixed with them. But nothing that helps for pain.
now to sit back and watch this post set off every spam alarm ever made.
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On 08/03/2011 1:53 PM, Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> Plain ol' paracetamol is over the counter in the US, in doses that would
> probably make your head spin anywhere else. 500 to 650mg pills, in 30 to
> 90 count bottles. It's the additives that start moving it up the list of
> 'controlled substances'. All of the co-codamols are schedule III in the
> US, requiring a prescription and a doctor to justify why they give them
> out; and they still only give out #3s. The other mixes are not mentioned
> much. Darvon+paracematol was schedule IV, less paperwork for the
> doctors, but is being recalled because someone thought 650mg of para
> taken 4 to 6 times a day was dangerous. Hydro-codone + para is still
> schedule III, everything else is schedule II. And if it is scheduled,
> you will need a doctor to sign a prescription for it. Not that customs
> at the airport will stop you for bringing them in, a friend's dad
> brought in several boxes of co-codamols from London, when I joked that
> they were not as easily purchased in the US. He just went to different
> pharmacies to get the two box limit several times over.
>
Thanks Sabrina but it is academic now. As you say you can buy co-codamol
in the UK also co-dydramol, over the counter.
> OTC, you can get stuff like caffine and phenyltoloxamine, or allergy or
> sleep meds mixed with them. But nothing that helps for pain.
>
I've found that adding caffeine does enhance the effect of
dihydrocodeine. Or maybe it just makes you feel more buzzy which makes
you feel the other drug is working better. Never underestimate the
placebo effect. ;-)
>
> now to sit back and watch this post set off every spam alarm ever made.
LOL at least your not selling blue pills :-P
--
Regards
Stephen
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> OTC, you can get stuff like caffine and phenyltoloxamine, or allergy or
> sleep meds mixed with them. But nothing that helps for pain.
My favourite is the paracetamol/aspirin/caffeine mix pills, used to buy
lots of them in one go (repeated use of self-checkout machine or picking
different checkout lanes) when I was visiting UK whilst living in Germany.
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