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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 08:31:17
Message: <4c63e995$1@news.povray.org>
A different tack on randomness today. I feel like unloading:

First, a non-annoyance: Foreplay is such a great name for a song. That 
is all.

Now, onto the topic. mostly commute-related:

* Contractors: Make sure your pallets, ladders, pipes, etc are tied down 
and properly secured in that 1970's era pickup truck you're driving. 
Your cargo constitutes a deadly projectile. Don't be surprised when I 
fly by you at 80 miles an hour to get in front of you. I'd rather risk a 
speeding ticket than death.

I have seen in the past couple of weeks the aftermath of irresponsible 
cargo handling: 2 ladders, a splintered mass of wood I can only guess 
used to be a pallet, and various other things on the road that don't 
belong on the road.

* Left Lane Blockers (Right lane blockers in those areas that drive on 
the left side of the street) Need I say more?

* I'm quote annoyed when I pass you, and you're driving 50 in a 70mph 
zone and you're busy yacking on the phone. You're probably equally 
oblivious to the fact that you've become a road hazard as you are to 
your surroundings.

* Driving while sending a txt msg? srsly?

* Arrogant cyclists who seem to get some perverse pleasure out of 
wearing clothing that is waay too small and waaay to revealing of things 
I prefer not to see. Ever.

* You know that big red and white triangle that says "Yeild" to ramp? 
Yeah. Cars are coming off the interstate, why are you blocking them from 
exiting?

* Conversely: Learn how to merge, let me give you a hint. Unless you're 
in an 18-wheeler with a heavy load, you're expected to get up to highway 
speed as you enter the highway. Any slower speed and you're likely going 
to make the morning traffic report with the pile-up you just caused, and 
on a technicality, insurance doesn't find you responsible for.

* If you've been doing something naughty on the road and you get pulled 
over, please find a better place to pull over than the freeway on-ramp. 
You're putting the police officer's life in danger as well as your own, 
not to mention you've added an extra layer of difficulty to getting onto 
a crowded freeway.

* If you see an exit ahead, and you're finding that the car driving a 
bit above the speed limit is going way to slow for you, it is still 
extremely rude to cross the solid white line and exit when they have 
signaled that they are about to exit. You've also caused that vehicle to 
miss their exit because you blocked them from exiting and just added 
time to their already long commute.

* Riding the bumper of the person in front of you will not make the 
person in front of you go any faster. Also, throwing up your hands and 
screaming is not going to magically cure the situation either. Yes, 
they're guilty of blocking the left lane. Yes, I understand your 
frustration, no, its not going to help to use tailgating as an outlet.

Whew... If you actually got here, thanks for reading that.
-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 08:51:11
Message: <4c63ee3f$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> Whew... If you actually got here, thanks for reading that.

Man, it's like when you drive through some village like a nutcase, and 
at the other side it says "Thanks for driving carefully" and you think 
to yourself "oh... yeah, I should totally have done that".


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 08:59:39
Message: <4c63f03b@news.povray.org>
There was once a British show which name I don't remember which was
about the British traffic patrol and incredible examples of reckless
driving that the patrols had caught on camera.

  I liked one thing the commentator said in the show, which was something
about the outright contradictory attitude many drivers have towards their
own car: When the car is parked, it's the most valuable and fragile thing
in the entire world to them. Even a minor scratch is comparable to the end
of the world. However, when they are driving the car, their attitude seems
completely the opposite, as their driving is completely reckless, as if they
couldn't care less how many scratches, bumps or even major damage their car
could get from it.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 09:11:21
Message: <4c63f2f9$1@news.povray.org>
>  I liked one thing the commentator said in the show, which was something
> about the outright contradictory attitude many drivers have towards their
> own car: When the car is parked, it's the most valuable and fragile thing
> in the entire world to them. Even a minor scratch is comparable to the end
> of the world. However, when they are driving the car, their attitude seems
> completely the opposite, as their driving is completely reckless, as if 
> they
> couldn't care less how many scratches, bumps or even major damage their 
> car
> could get from it.

That's because they all think they're one of the best drivers on the road, 
and nothing will ever happen to their car whilst they're driving it because 
they have the skill to avoid such accidents.  If they are involved in any 
type of accident, even if it is totally their fault for going double the 
speed limit around a blind corner, they will blame the other person for 
going too slowly or not pulling out fast enough.

I'm sure this guy blamed the other "idiots" for stopping on the highway: 
(skip to 1:30 to see the interesting bit)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7H8q3OrGkY


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 09:20:09
Message: <4c63f509$1@news.povray.org>

> A different tack on randomness today. I feel like unloading:
> 
> First, a non-annoyance: Foreplay is such a great name for a song. That 
> is all.
> 
> Now, onto the topic. mostly commute-related:
> 
> * Arrogant cyclists who seem to get some perverse pleasure out of 
> wearing clothing that is waay too small and waaay to revealing of things 
> I prefer not to see. Ever.

Are they arrogant _and_ wear form-fitting clothes, or are they arrogant 
_for_ wearing form-fitting clothes?

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 12:07:26
Message: <4c641c3e$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> * Contractors: Make sure your pallets, ladders, pipes, etc are tied down 

I think I've seen three or four times where I go past a car half off the 
road with something wedged underneath where I think "That looked like a 
ladder tangled in his wheels", and then three miles later theres someone in 
a pickup truck full of ladders at the side of the road and the driver 
standing there scratching his head like "I thought I had one more than that."

> * Driving while sending a txt msg? srsly?

I see at least several times a year someone driving down the road with a 
newspaper over the steering wheel, reading it.

> * Arrogant cyclists who seem to get some perverse pleasure out of 
> wearing clothing that is waay too small and waaay to revealing of things 
> I prefer not to see. Ever.

Dogbert:
    "Problem: Bicycle seats are hard and uncomfortable."
    "Solution: Wear funny pants."

> * Conversely: Learn how to merge, let me give you a hint. 

Yes. And please get your ass into the lane where you want to exit, instead 
of waiting until someone is *about* to merge, then shifting from the center 
lane to the right lane.  And please don't speed up when you see someone 
trying to merge in front of you - they really have nowhere else to go.

> * Riding the bumper of the person in front of you will not make the 
> person in front of you go any faster. 

And, while we're at it, if you're driving down the road at 70MPH and there 
isn't room for someone to parallel-park in front of you, you're doing it wrong.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 12:31:20
Message: <4c6421d8$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/12/2010 8:20 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:

>
> Are they arrogant _and_ wear form-fitting clothes, or are they arrogant
> _for_ wearing form-fitting clothes?
>

Arrogant /and/

-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 12:35:53
Message: <4c6422e9$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/12/2010 7:59 AM, Warp wrote:

>    I liked one thing the commentator said in the show, which was something
> about the outright contradictory attitude many drivers have towards their
> own car: When the car is parked, it's the most valuable and fragile thing
> in the entire world to them. Even a minor scratch is comparable to the end
> of the world. However, when they are driving the car, their attitude seems
> completely the opposite, as their driving is completely reckless, as if they
> couldn't care less how many scratches, bumps or even major damage their car
> could get from it.
>

Wow... I can totally see that attitude in some people. I get annoyed by 
the constant nicks the front-end of my car gets from gravel coming off 
the road, which reminds me of another annoyance:

Gravel haulers. This is a tractor-trailer hauling a huge load of gravel. 
They've passed a law recently requiring them to place a tarp over the 
load. It helps, but I see so many that are in such a sad state of repair 
that have huge holes in the tarp. Flinging rocks toward windshields as 
they make their way down the road, usually driving way too fast.



-- 
~Mike


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 14:57:32
Message: <4C644423.4080800@gmail.com>
On 12-8-2010 15:11, scott wrote:

 > That's because they all think they're one of the best drivers on the 
road,

Warning thread hijacking attempt:
Something that I would have posted on my blog if I had one ;)
I know it is too long, yet there is also much more to elaborate on after 
the last line...
Anyway, inspired by two books: one is 'bad science' by Ben Goldacre, 
apart from using this example wrongly, an interesting read. The other 
book's subject you can guess.
Comments, suggestions and hatemail to the usual address.

----------

Apparently there was some survey that indicates that 80 or 90% of all 
people think they are a better than average driver. This is often quoted 
as an example of how easy it is for people to fool themselves or some 
similar paternalistic point. I think that says more about the people
that interpret this result, than of the people that participated in this
survey.

There are probably as many driver styles as there are drivers. There is 
for instance the aggressive style, though they would probably describe 
it as 'sporty'. These drivers have good reflexes and know their car so 
well that they are able to put their cars in small gaps that open up in 
a densely packed road. They are often at least 15 seconds earlier home 
than those with a less aggressive style, or so they think. The other end 
of the spectrum are those that have a cooperative style. These drivers 
look around and anticipate what others are going to do, for instance by 
creating a space if they think somebody else is wanting to change lanes. 
It is clear that these two styles will lead to different assessment of 
how good somebody is as a driver. Sporty drivers will consider 
cooperative drivers as slow, stupid and annoying because they don't 
create space fast enough for the sporty ones to let them race on 
uninterrupted. Cooperative drivers will regard the sporty ones as 
homicidal maniacs. Of course the style of driving is not a linear scale 
and other style are possible, for instance one that tries to  inimize 
the amount of gas needed for a trip.
In conclusion, people will try to drive in a way that they think is a 
good driving style and judge other by the same standards. We should have 
been worried if 50% of people would think they are less than average 
drivers on their own scale of what is good driving. The error people 
make when they think that this survey is an example of how people can 
fool themselves, is that they assume that there is an objective 
measurement possible on a linear scale for driving ability.

Let's keep this in mind and see what happens if we *force* a linear 
scale. E.g. assume that there are only a finite number of cars and that 
the government has decided that only the best drivers get a licence. 
First we have to create a committee that can judge drivers capacity. For 
this a natural first group is that group that knows about cars e.g. 
because they own a couple and repair them themselves. This is based on 
the logical assumption that people who know how cars work also know how 
to drive them well. Presumably they will come up with a test like how 
fast drivers can negotiate an obstacle course without damage, to test 
the ability of the drivers. That would indeed create an objective linear 
scale.
So we have as our main ingredients a complex multidimensional concept, a 
need to make it objective and one dimensional, and a group of 
knowledgeable men and what comes out is a very reasonable measure that 
somehow and unplanned is not going to be gender-insensitive. And as long 
as new members of this committee are recruited from the 'best' drivers, 
it will stay that way.

This is of course an imaginary scenario and the fact that so many women 
are going to fail the test is a dead give away that something is wrong. 
You might even argue that no government is going to do something so 
simplistic for such a complex problem. On the other hand many people 
apparently fail to see the fact that driving ability is a 
multidimensional problem to begin with. If you don't, it may seem 
logical that it is a fair and adequate test. There is an even better 
argument that this kind of fallacy is common: it works this way in science


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Random annoyances
Date: 12 Aug 2010 18:25:50
Message: <4c6474ee$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> First we have to create a committee that can judge drivers capacity. 

On the other hand, I think it's safe to say that there *are* objective 
criteria for bad drivers: If you frequently get in an accident, you're a 
worse driver than those who never do.

I saw a study where they put cameras into 300 cars for a year to see what 
the driver was doing when they got in an accident. Even knowing they were 
being monitored, 100 people that year got in an accident.  That tells me an 
average driver (assuming they picked randomly, which might not be the case 
now that I think of it) gets in an accident every 3 years. This boggles my 
mind. I don't even ding a door in the parking lot every 3 years.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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