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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 00:37:04
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:21:46 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 06/06/2010 7:20 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:59:10 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>>> I'm a bit scared of SLC
>>>>
>>>> Nah, don't be - it's the liberal part of the state. :-)
>>>>
>>> I'll take your word on that.
>>
>> No need, it's pretty well documented - democrats hold (and have for
>> years) positions as the mayor for SLC and for the county,
>
> +1 point
>
> < lots of local
>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>> for the city),
>
> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P
Surely not BP, no? If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)
But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good
sign, don't you think?
> The number of overseas tourists last year was 14.1 million and the total
> overnight-stay visitors was 27 million. Not all of them visited the Wong
> Kei (Mr Wong’s shop) ;-)
LOL
> I imagine a lot don’t go more than once. Although, I recommended it to a
> Chinese Australian who came on holiday and he ate there 10 times in a
> week. The price might have had something to do with it. ;-)
I imagine it's also popular with student visitors. :-)
>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
>
> I may have miss-writ.
<Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>
> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the scramble
> egg rice the egg is barely cooked.
Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.
>> The last two times have been off-season, and we really enjoyed it. But
>> if we're relocating, we also need to spend a little time there during
>> the season as well. :)
>>
> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)
Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me. It's 82F here right
now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.
I guess spring is over. <sigh>
>>>>>> Ooooh, don't think I've had that before (pork obviously isn't often
>>>>>> used, but you know that<G>).
>>>>>
>>> Fusion :-)
>>
>> Yeah. I can't remember which show it was now, but on a cooking show
>> someone had to create a new Indian-style dish, and he wasn't sure what
>> kind of meat to use; he remembered something about beef, but didn't
>> know about pork, so he selected that. Even still, I think he came out
>> ahead.
>>
>>
> Some people think it is an unclean meat. They don’t know what they are
> missing.
Well, it tends to be thought of as such for religious reasons, so it
either becomes "throw away my religion and religious traditions" or eat
it. Generally; I know a guy who is ostensibly Jewish who likes the
occasional bacon sandwich (made with the real thing, not turkey bacon).
>>> Nor am I generally but it absorbs the flavour wonderfully. Try adding
>>> some florets about 15 minutes before the end of the cooking.
>>> Overcooking is OK too.
>>
>> I'll keep that in mind. :)
>>
>>
> Actually par boiling them first is best.
Hmm, I could see that working.
Jim
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 04:27:10
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On 07/06/2010 5:37 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> < lots of local
>>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>>> for the city),
>>
>> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P
>
> Surely not BP, no? If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)
>
No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for
other operators.
> But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good
> sign, don't you think?
>
Yes, :-D
I transferred my orniness to this thread. ;-)
>
>> I imagine a lot don’t go more than once. Although, I recommended it to a
>> Chinese Australian who came on holiday and he ate there 10 times in a
>> week. The price might have had something to do with it. ;-)
>
> I imagine it's also popular with student visitors. :-)
>
Yes, the average age is quite low if you don’t count the singletons.
>>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
>>
>> I may have miss-writ.
>
> <Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>
>
Lost on me as we don't get Stephen Colbert here.
>> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the scramble
>> egg rice the egg is barely cooked.
>
> Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.
>
Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
>>>
>> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)
>
> Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me. It's 82F here right
> now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.
>
I thought that as I was writing it.
> I guess spring is over.<sigh>
>
Spring has sprung,
the grass has ris’,
I wonder where the birdie is?
There he is up in the sky,
He dropped some whitewash in my eye!
I‘m alright, I won't cry,
I'm just glad that cows can't fly!
>> Some people think it is an unclean meat. They don’t know what they are
>> missing.
>
> Well, it tends to be thought of as such for religious reasons, so it
> either becomes "throw away my religion and religious traditions" or eat
> it. Generally; I know a guy who is ostensibly Jewish who likes the
> occasional bacon sandwich (made with the real thing, not turkey bacon).
>
Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.
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Stephen
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 10:28:21
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:27:09 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 07/06/2010 5:37 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>>> < lots of local
>>>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>>>> for the city),
>>>
>>> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P
>>
>> Surely not BP, no? If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)
>>
> No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for
> other operators.
I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)
>> But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good
>> sign, don't you think?
>>
>>
> Yes, :-D
> I transferred my orniness to this thread. ;-)
So I noticed. ;-)
>>>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
>>>
>>> I may have miss-writ.
>>
>> <Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>
>>
> Lost on me as we don't get Stephen Colbert here.
It's a common tactic in his interviews (he is a satirical commentator on
current events, and the last 7 minutes of the show includes an interview
where he usually tries to wind up the guest).
>>> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the
>>> scramble egg rice the egg is barely cooked.
>>
>> Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.
>>
> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here. But not always.
>>> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)
>>
>> Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me. It's 82F here right
>> now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.
>>
> I thought that as I was writing it.
So what do you consider "hot"? That'll give me an idea. :)
> the grass has ris’,
> I wonder where the birdie is?
>
> There he is up in the sky,
> He dropped some whitewash in my eye!
>
> I‘m alright, I won't cry,
> I'm just glad that cows can't fly!
LOL
>>> Some people think it is an unclean meat. They don’t know what they are
>>> missing.
>>
>> Well, it tends to be thought of as such for religious reasons, so it
>> either becomes "throw away my religion and religious traditions" or eat
>> it. Generally; I know a guy who is ostensibly Jewish who likes the
>> occasional bacon sandwich (made with the real thing, not turkey bacon).
>>
>>
> Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.
LOL. Bacon, though, is mana. ;-)
Jim
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 13:49:33
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On 07/06/2010 3:28 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:27:09 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 07/06/2010 5:37 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>>>> < lots of local
>>>>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>>>>> for the city),
>>>>
>>>> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P
>>>
>>> Surely not BP, no? If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)
>>>
>> No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for
>> other operators.
>
> I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)
>
But I was on BP's Thistle platform for a trip.
What a mess it was. <Grrr>
>>> But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good
>>> sign, don't you think?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, :-D
>> I transferred my orniness to this thread. ;-)
>
> So I noticed. ;-)
>
Easy Peasy :-)
>>>>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
>>>>
>>>> I may have miss-writ.
>>>
>>> <Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>
>>>
>> Lost on me as we don't get Stephen Colbert here.
>
> It's a common tactic in his interviews (he is a satirical commentator on
> current events, and the last 7 minutes of the show includes an interview
> where he usually tries to wind up the guest).
>
I’ve seen clips of his show but you noticed that I didn’t fall into your
trap :-P
So I accept you apology in advance.
>>>> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the
>>>> scramble egg rice the egg is barely cooked.
>>>
>>> Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.
>>>
>> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
>
> Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here. But not always.
>
It does for most Westerners :-)
>>>> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)
>>>
>>> Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me. It's 82F here right
>>> now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.
>>>
>> I thought that as I was writing it.
>
> So what do you consider "hot"? That'll give me an idea. :)
>
75 F is hot for most of us Brits but since I've worked in the subtropics
anything over 90 F is too hot for my comfort. I did find 104 F was
tolerable if I moved slowly and kept out of the sun. And I onced worked
for half an hour at a time at 210 F when I was offshore.
>> Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.
>
> LOL. Bacon, though, is mana. ;-)
>
You mean that the Israelites were eating bacon during their travels in
the desert?
You could knock be down with a feather.
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Best Regards,
Stephen
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 14:47:12
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:49:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>> No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for
>>> other operators.
>>
>> I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)
>>
> But I was on BP's Thistle platform for a trip.
Hmmm, might have to reconsider that first round, then. ;-)
> What a mess it was. <Grrr>
I was watching something this weekend that talked about the number of
safety incidents for various oil companies over the past 3-4 years. Most
of them were in the < 10 category. BP? More than *700*.
Ouch.
> I’ve seen clips of his show but you noticed that I didn’t fall into your
> trap :-P
> So I accept you apology in advance.
LOL, well played, sir. ;-)
>>> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
>>
>> Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here. But not always.
>>
> It does for most Westerners :-)
Interesting, I didn't know that. I thought it was "just" me (not as in
"I'm the only one" but "I'm one of a small number").
>> So what do you consider "hot"? That'll give me an idea. :)
>>
> 75 F is hot for most of us Brits but since I've worked in the subtropics
> anything over 90 F is too hot for my comfort. I did find 104 F was
> tolerable if I moved slowly and kept out of the sun. And I onced worked
> for half an hour at a time at 210 F when I was offshore.
75 F is very comfortable for me. In fact, that's what it is outside here
right now. Warmer than that depends on the humidity and available
drinking water. I did some work in Arizona in 106 F (server room setup
but the building wasn't finished yet and the AC wasn't installed, much
less the windows), and it was OK, but took a lot of drink with me
(Gatorade, as I recall).
But I've seen > 100 F in 80%+ humidity and that's just miserable.
>>> Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.
>>
>> LOL. Bacon, though, is mana. ;-)
>>
>>
> You mean that the Israelites were eating bacon during their travels in
> the desert?
>
> You could knock be down with a feather.
LOL.
<tap>
Jim
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 15:26:13
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On 07/06/2010 7:47 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)
>>>
>> But I was on BP's Thistle platform for a trip.
>
> Hmmm, might have to reconsider that first round, then. ;-)
>
As long as you buy the lst one ;_)
>> What a mess it was.<Grrr>
>
> I was watching something this weekend that talked about the number of
> safety incidents for various oil companies over the past 3-4 years. Most
> of them were in the< 10 category. BP? More than *700*.
>
> Ouch.
>
I'm glad it's called BP instead if British Petroleum, now.
>> I’ve seen clips of his show but you noticed that I didn’t fall into your
>> trap :-P
>> So I accept you apology in advance.
>
> LOL, well played, sir. ;-)
>
<Bows>
>>>> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
>>>
>>> Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here. But not always.
>>>
>> It does for most Westerners :-)
>
> Interesting, I didn't know that. I thought it was "just" me (not as in
> "I'm the only one" but "I'm one of a small number").
>
IMHO :-)
>>> So what do you consider "hot"? That'll give me an idea. :)
>>>
>> 75 F is hot for most of us Brits but since I've worked in the subtropics
>> anything over 90 F is too hot for my comfort. I did find 104 F was
>> tolerable if I moved slowly and kept out of the sun. And I onced worked
>> for half an hour at a time at 210 F when I was offshore.
>
> 75 F is very comfortable for me. In fact, that's what it is outside here
> right now. Warmer than that depends on the humidity and available
> drinking water. I did some work in Arizona in 106 F (server room setup
> but the building wasn't finished yet and the AC wasn't installed, much
> less the windows), and it was OK, but took a lot of drink with me
> (Gatorade, as I recall).
>
Yes you need to drink. Which raises another gripe of mine. People
carrying water bottles in temperate climates as if they are in the tropics.
> But I've seen> 100 F in 80%+ humidity and that's just miserable.
>
One job I had (on BP's Thistle) was to keep an eye on the production
instrumentation, when the telemetry had broken. It was about 40 C (104
F) and the humidity was very high. We must have drunk a gallon of water
an hour.
>> You could knock be down with a feather.
>
> LOL.
>
> <tap>
>
:-D
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 15:27:13
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On 07/06/2010 8:26 PM, Stephen wrote:
> As long as you buy the lst one ;_)
Last one, I meant.
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 16:04:46
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:26:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>> Hmmm, might have to reconsider that first round, then. ;-)
>>
> As long as you buy the lst one ;_)
Deal, as long as you keep buying the *next* one. ;-)
> I'm glad it's called BP instead if British Petroleum, now.
I'm sure you're not alone in that feeling.
> Yes you need to drink. Which raises another gripe of mine. People
> carrying water bottles in temperate climates as if they are in the
> tropics.
Well, I can understand that - it's a diet thing for some people. When I
was working with a personal trainer, I was under instruction to drink (I
think it was) a gallon of water a day (not at once, but thorughout the
day) or something like that.
>> But I've seen> 100 F in 80%+ humidity and that's just miserable.
>>
> One job I had (on BP's Thistle) was to keep an eye on the production
> instrumentation, when the telemetry had broken. It was about 40 C (104
> F) and the humidity was very high. We must have drunk a gallon of water
> an hour.
I'd believe that. That can't have been fun.
Jim
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 16:15:41
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On 07/06/2010 9:04 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:26:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> Hmmm, might have to reconsider that first round, then. ;-)
>>>
>> As long as you buy the lst one ;_)
>
> Deal, as long as you keep buying the *next* one. ;-)
>
It is a Scot that you're talking to :-P
>> I'm glad it's called BP instead if British Petroleum, now.
>
> I'm sure you're not alone in that feeling.
>
I bet.
>> Yes you need to drink. Which raises another gripe of mine. People
>> carrying water bottles in temperate climates as if they are in the
>> tropics.
>
> Well, I can understand that - it's a diet thing for some people. When I
> was working with a personal trainer, I was under instruction to drink (I
> think it was) a gallon of water a day (not at once, but thorughout the
> day) or something like that.
>
A good way to get ill.
>>> But I've seen> 100 F in 80%+ humidity and that's just miserable.
>>>
>> One job I had (on BP's Thistle) was to keep an eye on the production
>> instrumentation, when the telemetry had broken. It was about 40 C (104
>> F) and the humidity was very high. We must have drunk a gallon of water
>> an hour.
>
> I'd believe that. That can't have been fun.
>
It was in a masochistic way.
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Logic Simulator.... For whomever wants to look at it.
Date: 7 Jun 2010 19:11:48
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:15:42 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>> Deal, as long as you keep buying the *next* one. ;-)
>>
> It is a Scot that you're talking to :-P
But of course I knew that - that's why I phrased the way I did. :-)
>> Well, I can understand that - it's a diet thing for some people. When
>> I was working with a personal trainer, I was under instruction to drink
>> (I think it was) a gallon of water a day (not at once, but thorughout
>> the day) or something like that.
>>
> A good way to get ill.
Only if you take too much at once. I've a coworker whose adopted
daughter died as a result of overhydration - it was a form of punishment
- the story is very complicated, but it was all over the news here when
the trial happened.
I forget the measure I was told - I was originally thinking 32 Oz, but
then thought that didn't seem like much.
>>>> But I've seen> 100 F in 80%+ humidity and that's just miserable.
>>>>
>>> One job I had (on BP's Thistle) was to keep an eye on the production
>>> instrumentation, when the telemetry had broken. It was about 40 C (104
>>> F) and the humidity was very high. We must have drunk a gallon of
>>> water an hour.
>>
>> I'd believe that. That can't have been fun.
>>
> It was in a masochistic way.
That's right, you're a Scot. ;-)
Jim
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