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Darren New wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> Not what I am saying. The sane people already had them. You don't get
>> a lot of clear thinking people buying up guns, when people start making
>
> Fair enough. But when 150 million people already own guns, the 2 million
> crazies are less of a problem. :-)
>
As one of the sane ones, I would have to go buy a gun now if I were to
keep one in the house. Apartment dwelling never lent itself to anything
with more reach than a baseball bat, and the practice ranges were quite
a distance away.
>> And if he bought it because he "needed" to have it close,
>
> Yeah. I'll have to ask my cop brother where he keeps his. I know he has
> a bunch, but I naturally never saw them.
>
> His kid is *very* gun-safety aware. Like, if he sticks his finger in the
> dart-gun trigger before he's ready to shoot, he gets scolded. But
> they're all afraid of him at the paint-ball games.
>
I hope that his kid didn't put up with the absurdity of junior high
school gun safety class. If I ever needed a reason to dislike the
stereo-typical southern, flannel-wearing, deer antlers in pickup truck
hunters, that was it.
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> I think you missed the whole point of it. It's not like he's selling the
> thing at Toy R Us (in fact, he's not selling it at all).
What's whether he's selling it or not got to do with it? He's modified a
lethal weapon deliberately to make it look like a child's toy, and what's
worse he has advertised it to the world and seems to be encouraging others
to do the same. To assume that a child never gets sight of this gun, or any
one of the number of copies he has influenced, seems a little naive.
People, even gun owners, are only human, mistakes do get made, which is why
we have thing in place to reduce the risks when mistakes get made - painting
a gun like a child's toy just seems to be increasing the risk to me.
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On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:18:38 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>> Sorry when I googled the phrase that is what I got.
>
>I'm not sure what phrase you're referring to, but OK.
"longest continuous government" but as you say OK :)
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Regards
Stephen
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Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> I hope that his kid didn't put up with the absurdity of junior high
> school gun safety class.
He's not that old yet.
> If I ever needed a reason to dislike the
> stereo-typical southern, flannel-wearing, deer antlers in pickup truck
> hunters, that was it.
Sounds like a good idea to me. What's wrong with the idea of teaching gun
safety in jr high? They rarely taught us anything "practical" beyond shop
class.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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Darren New wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>> If I ever needed a reason to dislike the
>> stereo-typical southern, flannel-wearing, deer antlers in pickup truck
>> hunters, that was it.
>
> Sounds like a good idea to me. What's wrong with the idea of teaching
> gun safety in jr high? They rarely taught us anything "practical"
> beyond shop class.
>
Teaching it is a great idea. And in a county high school where lots of
the families hunt just to have enough food in the winter, it is a
necessity. Even at a younger age it would have been smart, since by 8th
grade most of these kids had been hunting with parents.
No, my reason was because these guys had no business teaching anything.
The lesson of "don't pull the trigger because the gun is always loaded"
involved the teaching handing a kid a gun, teaching them how to check if
it is loaded, and then when the kid refuses to pull the trigger the
teacher would continue to tell them the lesson says they need to pull
the trigger to demonstrate. After a few times of this "you need to" "but
you said not to" the kid inevitably gives in because the teacher says
they have to. Then the teacher gets to yell "I told you not to ever do
that!" Sure, it teaches them to not trust people in authority while
anyone is holding a gun. It also undermines the rest of the class,
because you realize these guys are idiots.
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Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> No, my reason was because these guys had no business teaching anything.
Heh. Good story.
Reminds me of "physical education" classes. Usually taught by geezers too
old to actually demonstrate how to do a push-up, for example.
Plus, they never actually taught you anything. They'd decide that today
you'll play football, and *assumed* everyone knew all the rules *and* how to
play football, etc. I didn't know how to catch a football, throw a
football, or which way I was supposed to run when I got the football.
(Football being gridiron, for all you non-americans.)
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I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> (Football being gridiron, for all you non-americans.)
Aren't we Europeans fools for calling soccer "football"? Soccer is for
wimps, football is for Real Men. :)
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Warp wrote:
> Aren't we Europeans fools for calling soccer "football"? Soccer is for
> wimps, football is for Real Men. :)
Actually, "soccer" is the term for a particular set of rules for playing
ball games with your feet. "Football" is ball games with your feet. So,
like, technically "hacky-sack" is football, but not soccer.
Granted, calling what americans do "football" is a stretch, if not downright
wrong. But there's more to football than just soccer, just like there's more
to poker than five-card hold'em and there's more to billiards than just pool.
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> Granted, calling what americans do "football" is a stretch
I have always wondered why they call it football even though playing the
ball with the feet forms only a very small part of the sport. It would be
akin to calling volleyball "fistball" because you are allowed to hit the
ball with your first, and that's often used.
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>> Granted, calling what americans do "football" is a stretch
>
> I have always wondered why they call it football
Trolling backwards thru wikipedia history sections...
"The game of football which was played at Rugby School between 1750 and 1859
permitted handling of the ball, but no-one was allowed to run with it in
their hands towards the opposition's goal." I don't know how relevant that
is, tho, but apparently rugby was also called "football" originally.
American football is much closer to rugby than soccer.
Heard this weekend:
"Wow, that was quite a hit. It's taking him a while to get up."
"Well, he's moving his arms and legs, so he should be alright."
"They're carrying him off the field now."
"He'll be fine, but the nine players carrying him off all have hernias now."
Turns out he didn't fit in the MRI at the hospital, either.
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