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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 13:08:21
Message: <4a75c805$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/02/09 11:48, Chambers wrote:
> (I have to disagree, though, as I think he was a deluded warmonger, and

	He may have been a warmongerer, and a lot more stuff unfit to print, 
but I seriously doubt he was delusional.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 13:14:44
Message: <4a75c984$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> other general broadcast companies are either too tightly bound to one 
> political party or too busy avoiding law suits and/or loss of audience 
> to have an political opinion.

Also, they depend on getting press releases and access to the president, and 
they find themselves snubbed if they annoy the government too much. If 
you're doing comedy instead of news, it's OK to make fun of the government 
two or three days after the event has been reported in all the "serious" media.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 13:47:00
Message: <4a75d114$1@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:
>  The anti-Bush people said the same about Bush and his policies, as well.

I think one difference is that something like 70%-80% of the people approve 
of (some of) Obama's policies, while 70%-80% disapproved of Bush's policies. 
The Obama policies that most people disapprove of are the ones where he's 
doing the same thing as Bush.

But let's not get into a political argument here. :-)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 13:48:31
Message: <4a75d16f$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>>   I hate to be a grammar nazi
>   Btw, does that count as Godwin's law in action?


Reminds me of one of the meetings I was in.
"Hire Carlyn. She's very good at this sort of management."
"Yes, she's a real requirements Nazi. ... Er, that's a good thing."

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 14:29:11
Message: <4a75daf7@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:16:01 -0400, John VanSickle wrote:

> They do
> honestly believe that Obama's policies will do far more harm than good.

Arguably, many of these same people are the ones who proudly proclaim 
that America has the "best health care system in the world", despite the 
cost of health care here being the *highest* in the world, the system 
itself being ranked something like 50th in the world, and the average 
life span being something like 37th in the world.

I wonder how we rank in the cost of malpractice insurance for 
doctors....certainly that's a huge part of the insane costs of health 
care here in the US.

Jim


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 14:30:55
Message: <4A75DB60.4040208@hotmail.com>
On 2-8-2009 18:25, Stephen wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:21:56 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
>> On 2-8-2009 16:54, Stephen wrote:
>>> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:12:37 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife has the strange habit of verbatim quoting entire conversations 
>>>> (i.e. without using 'and then he said' or similar to indicate she is 
>>>> still quoting) between her and somebody else. After ten minutes I get 
>>>> confused if 'you' refers to me or to that other person.
>>> Oh! Is that a bad thing then?
>> yes, because she gets angry, because I haven't been paying attention. 
>> Actually I have been listening for 10 bloody minutes and how am I to 
>> know when the quote stops if she does not tell me.
> 
> If you follow properly then you would know :)
> 
>>> You would not like to hear her talking to me :P
>> why not?
> 
> I do the same or so my wife tells me.
Take this advice of another victim of this strange behaviour: stop it. 
;) Learn to use phrases like 'he asked me if I would...' in stead of 
'will you...' and 'I asked her if...' in stead of 'will you...'. It will 
make the life of the listener so much easier. Also restrict yourself to 
the main points and don't act like a tape recorder, that will help the 
listener also to understand what you find the most important, and it 
saves time.


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 14:50:52
Message: <4a75e00c@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> Arguably, many of these same people are the ones who proudly proclaim 
> that America has the "best health care system in the world", despite the 
> cost of health care here being the *highest* in the world, the system 
> itself being ranked something like 50th in the world, and the average 
> life span being something like 37th in the world.

Why, the cost being highest in the world is what *makes* it the best in 
the world!  More expensive is always better, *especially* if you get a 
lower-quality product!  It shows that you are affluent and have money to 
waste!  And *everything* in America is better than everywhere else, not 
because it's *good*, but because everywhere else is so much worse, yes! 
  Now all we need to do is get rid of those pesky liberals, who have 
their heads in their sand about reality and want to take all our 
hard-earned money and give it to deadbeat minorities who just want to 
suckle on the public teat, and prevent us from our God-given 
constitutional right to bear arms as a metaphor for freedom, despite the 
fact that we haven't had a ground-force invasion of American soil in a 
very long time, certainly not within living memory.  Well, there's those 
illegal immigrants, any immigrants should be illegal to keep the 
American culture pure, and that's sure an invasion and we should be 
allowed to shoot anybody who's different.  Rawr.  (and that's not even 
touching the abomination that is the Federal Reserve, mockery that is 
the UN, travesty of abortion under any circumstances, and whatever other 
sacred cows far-right conservatives have that I can't think of off the 
top of my head)

*cough*

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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 14:57:18
Message: <4a75e18e$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> On 31-7-2009 23:30, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> I like how someone points out that McCain was born in Panama.
> []
>> If anything, McCain could be considered a better case, since we *do* 
>> know he wasn't "physically" even on the same continent, at the time.
> 
> On which continent was he then?
Ok, ok... Wasn't thinking. Panama is "technically" North America, but 
its a close call. :p

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 14:59:33
Message: <4a75e215$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:50:49 -0400, Tim Cook wrote:

> *cough*

You should have that cough checked out, unless your insurance provider 
has determined that it's not covered because it's a preexisting 
condition.  Make sure your doctor is in-network and that you've got your 
credit card to cover the co-pay (or more if you haven't met the plan's 
minimum out-of-pocket expense per annum).  And if you are referred to a 
specialist for help with it, your PCP doesn't know if the specialist is 
in-network or not for you, so make sure you check before you make the 
appointment, otherwise you have to pay the specialist completely out of 
pocket. ;-)

(Yes, I believe I've correctly recognised your sarcasm. ;-) )

Jim


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Speaking of conspiracy theories
Date: 2 Aug 2009 15:04:33
Message: <4a75e341$1@news.povray.org>
Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 08/02/09 11:48, Chambers wrote:
>> (I have to disagree, though, as I think he was a deluded warmonger, and
> 
>     He may have been a warmongerer, and a lot more stuff unfit to print, 
> but I seriously doubt he was delusional.

Not delusional, but deluded.  From what I've seen, I think he wanted the 
war in Iraq badly enough that two things happened:

1) His own view of the available data was biased,
2) His staff, knowing what he wanted, either consciously or 
unconsciously colored the information they gave him.

Combined, I'm sure that he was convinced he was doing the right thing. 
I'm also certain that he's much more intelligent than people give him 
credit for, and that if he'd had access to better (read: less biased) 
information, he would have made more intelligent choices.  He was still 
biased himself, so he wouldn't be perfect, but he would have done a lot 
better.

-- 
Chambers


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