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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 06:14:00
Message: <49a527f8$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> Lol, I'd be in the wars at your place. :)
> 
>  Just change it back to your script.

Clearly they changed it to add a new drive. If I change it back, we'll 
lose that drive. (Although I can easily add it to my script.)

It just makes me angry that they can just silently *change* stuff like 
this without warning me. Now when somebody's login script falls over, I 
have *no clue* what the problem is. Thanks, guys.

I'm also currently fighting a procedure document problem. Our director 
of IT has noticed that I recently revised two local UK procedure 
documents, so he wants those to be "retired immediately".

Still, our QA manager suggested that he was going to reply to that 
particular request in two words - only one of which is inoffensive. 
(After all, there's nothing wrong with "off"...) It seems I'm not the 
only one who's irritated.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 06:15:21
Message: <49a52849$1@news.povray.org>
>> Option #1 is clearly unsatisfactory, and option #2 is likely to get me 
>> yelled at. I love my job...
> 
> Make your boss earn his money. Ask for an executive decision.

You're talking about a man who has a packet of sunflower seeds next to 
his desk. (I'm not making this up.) Can you spell "bird brain"?

In fact, I take that back. It would be an insult to the birds...

I think my plan of action is to not actually *do* anything at this 
point, just ask IT why this was done.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 06:23:20
Message: <49a52a28$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> I'm also currently fighting a procedure document problem. Our director 
> of IT has noticed that I recently revised two local UK procedure 
> documents, so he wants those to be "retired immediately".

"The IT directory must be made aware of all audit findings relating to 
IT so that a proper audit response can be produced."

...because I'm not capable of producing a "proper audit response" all by 
myself?

I'm sorry, maybe I *imagined* that last 6 years... but I could have 
sworn I've been writing "proper audit responses" since before you were 
even employed by this company! :-P

MUST...STOP...TYPING...>_<


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 06:34:22
Message: <49a52cbe$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> MUST...STOP...TYPING...>_<

Fortunately, I *removed* that comment from my email before I sent it...


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 10:50:43
Message: <49a568d3$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:13:58 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> St. wrote:
>> Lol, I'd be in the wars at your place. :)
>> 
>>  Just change it back to your script.
> 
> Clearly they changed it to add a new drive. If I change it back, we'll
> lose that drive. (Although I can easily add it to my script.)
> 
> It just makes me angry that they can just silently *change* stuff like
> this without warning me. Now when somebody's login script falls over, I
> have *no clue* what the problem is. Thanks, guys.
> 
> I'm also currently fighting a procedure document problem. Our director
> of IT has noticed that I recently revised two local UK procedure
> documents, so he wants those to be "retired immediately".
> 
> Still, our QA manager suggested that he was going to reply to that
> particular request in two words - only one of which is inoffensive.
> (After all, there's nothing wrong with "off"...) It seems I'm not the
> only one who's irritated.

Use that to your advantage.  Seriously.  That the QA manager is upset 
about this as well gives you additional leverage to say "this is what my 
procedures are supposed to prevent, but nobody follows them and now the 
users are being affected by these random changes being introduced into 
the systems by the other admins without them telling me about it".

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 10:51:34
Message: <49a56906$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:23:18 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Invisible wrote:
> 
>> I'm also currently fighting a procedure document problem. Our director
>> of IT has noticed that I recently revised two local UK procedure
>> documents, so he wants those to be "retired immediately".
> 
> "The IT directory must be made aware of all audit findings relating to
> IT so that a proper audit response can be produced."
> 
> ...because I'm not capable of producing a "proper audit response" all by
> myself?
> 
> I'm sorry, maybe I *imagined* that last 6 years... but I could have
> sworn I've been writing "proper audit responses" since before you were
> even employed by this company! :-P
> 
> MUST...STOP...TYPING...>_<

Provide them with copies of your previous audit responses and reports.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 14:01:28
Message: <49a59588$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 1. Wade through a few miles of VB in an attempt to figure out why their 
> overcomplicated script is broken.
> 
> 2. Revert it back to the 3-line logon script that I wrote which works 
> properly.
> 
> Option #1 is clearly unsatisfactory, and option #2 is likely to get me 
> yelled at. I love my job...

3. Tell your boss hackers broke into the system and you need to shut 
everything down and clean up the damage done.



-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 25 Feb 2009 14:02:57
Message: <49a595e1$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> It just makes me angry that they can just silently *change* stuff like 
> this without warning me. Now when somebody's login script falls over, I 
> have *no clue* what the problem is. Thanks, guys.

Can't you change the passwords used to get into the systems there? If not, 
you need to put into writing that you can't be responsible for the systems 
if you can't control them.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 26 Feb 2009 04:00:09
Message: <49a65a19@news.povray.org>
>> It just makes me angry that they can just silently *change* stuff like 
>> this without warning me. Now when somebody's login script falls over, 
>> I have *no clue* what the problem is. Thanks, guys.
> 
> Can't you change the passwords used to get into the systems there?

No. They have all the master passwords; I don't even know what those 
are. So they can lock me out, but not the reverse.

> If 
> not, you need to put into writing that you can't be responsible for the 
> systems if you can't control them.

Heh, yeah. Something like that...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: And again...
Date: 26 Feb 2009 13:03:56
Message: <49a6d98c$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> No. They have all the master passwords; I don't even know what those 
> are. So they can lock me out, but not the reverse.

If you have the passwords for the routers, then you have the passwords. :-)

>> If not, you need to put into writing that you can't be responsible for 
>> the systems if you can't control them.
> 
> Heh, yeah. Something like that...

Seriously. You should write up what's going on and send it to your boss, his 
boss, and so on up the line. Explain they're crashing your systems and you 
have no control over it, and ask them what the appropriate procedure should 
be for violation of procedures.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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