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Phil Cook v2 <phi### [at] nospamrocain freeservecouk> wrote:
> Darren's mentioned the biggies, but I'll add System Shock 1 and 2 the
> spirtual successors of Bioshock.
I don't think that's what you intended to say... :P
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Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> Darren's mentioned the biggies,
I also quite like Undying (great story and settings and magic/weapons/etc),
altho it wasn't what I'd call classic or anything. And McGee's Alice,
primarily because of the ties in to the book and the surrealism.
> but I'll add System Shock 1 and 2 the
I never managed to get it to run here, but I've seen videos. The on thing
that kills me with these games is when all the levels look the same. It
looks like DOOM3 is pretty much like that. You have "indoor base", "mars
surface", and "hades", and that's pretty much the three levels you have. At
least from my limited viewing of the game being played. I think SS was the
same way, if not moreso.
> Portal - All the hype, but the best way to think of it is as a confined
> sand-box; this is what has to happen or where you have to go now do it
> anyway you like.
Yeah. That looked like lots of fun. And a novel way of doing things. Perhaps
Mirror's Edge was inspired a bit by Portal.
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On 2/9/2009 7:14 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> Syndicate,
Did you hear they're considering doing a remake (as in, a particular
developer is interested in making it, and trying to secure both the
rights and funding to pursue the project)? Now, THAT would be a great
choice :)
BTW, another few I thought of were:
Oni. A Third person beat-em-up by Bungie (pre-Halo), very engaging.
Star Control 2. If you're a fan of the original Star Trek, you should
enjoy this tongue-in-cheek spiff of it. Crazy species, great combat,
doomsday devices, and gratuitous alien sex scenes! Does it get any
better than this? :)
Not to mention, one of the greatest quotes from a bad guy ever: "You are
filth. We shall cleanse." :)
(Don't bother with 1 or 3, though)
> Oh and I'm still playing Fallout3 for the second time and I'll be
> playing it a third time to explore the Bad Side, and then maybe a fourth
> time for the Balanced Side, and then maybe a speed run, and then... ;-)
You know, since I finished the story, I just haven't been interested in
going back and playing any more... it's a shame, as it was really fun
while I was into it.
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And lo On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:40:31 -0000, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> did
spake thusly:
> Phil Cook v2 <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>> Darren's mentioned the biggies, but I'll add System Shock 1 and 2 the
>> spirtual successors of Bioshock.
>
> I don't think that's what you intended to say... :P
No I don't think I intended to say that :-P
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And lo On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:47:24 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
did spake thusly:
> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> Darren's mentioned the biggies,
>
> I also quite like Undying (great story and settings and
> magic/weapons/etc),
That's one I picked up on your recommendation and yes I did enjoy it,
reminded me a little of Blood for some reason.
> altho it wasn't what I'd call classic or anything. And McGee's Alice,
> primarily because of the ties in to the book and the surrealism.
That could have been better. Both the story and design was very nice and
it had a few neat little platformng innovations such as the footprints
showing where you'd land, but it just lacked something IDK.
>> but I'll add System Shock 1 and 2 the
>
> I never managed to get it to run here, but I've seen videos.
I've got SS2 to run on XP and added in the SHTUP high-def texture patch
without a problem if you've got Thief to run so should SS2.
> The on thing that kills me with these games is when all the levels look
> the same. It looks like DOOM3 is pretty much like that. You have "indoor
> base", "mars surface", and "hades", and that's pretty much the three
> levels you have. At least from my limited viewing of the game being
> played. I think SS was the same way, if not moreso.
To be fair you are stuck on a space-station or space-ship in SS1 and SS2
respectively so gray is the theme ;-) Them again there are the hydroponics
bays and the organic presence of the Many. I will say that unlike some
games I didn't get overtly lost in SS2. I would occasionally end up back
where I started from following some passage, but at least I'd recognise
the fact and I could navigate my way around without reverting to the map
most of the time.
>> Portal - All the hype, but the best way to think of it is as a confined
>> sand-box; this is what has to happen or where you have to go now do it
>> anyway you like.
>
> Yeah. That looked like lots of fun.
My cousin just didn't 'get it', I suppose you need a problem solving brain
to appreciate it.
> And a novel way of doing things. Perhaps Mirror's Edge was inspired a
> bit by Portal.
Conceptually perhaps, but IMO they messed it up by adding in the
gun-toting enemies in a sporadic system - i.e. sometimes you have to avoid
them, sometimes you have to take them out; make up your mind. Also it
could be darn pernickity about where you land - run along with someone
shooting at you, drop down at a minor angle and run towards a ramp, jump
and... miss the drainpipe by an inch, fall, die, repeat. In Portal even if
I didn't make it over a barrier or to a platform I never blamed the game;
I accepted I hadn't placed the portal correctly, entered it with the
correct orientation, or simply messed up my timing.
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And lo On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:07:24 -0000, Chambers
<ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> did spake thusly:
> On 2/9/2009 7:14 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> Syndicate,
>
> Did you hear they're considering doing a remake (as in, a particular
> developer is interested in making it, and trying to secure both the
> rights and funding to pursue the project)? Now, THAT would be a great
> choice :)
Mmmm Wikipedia suggests it may be an online thing, which would be
interesting; sounds like it could be a bit like EVE.
>> Oh and I'm still playing Fallout3 for the second time and I'll be
>> playing it a third time to explore the Bad Side, and then maybe a fourth
>> time for the Balanced Side, and then maybe a speed run, and then... ;-)
>
> You know, since I finished the story, I just haven't been interested in
> going back and playing any more... it's a shame, as it was really fun
> while I was into it.
I just want to blow up Megaton, crush Moira's dreams, burn Harold, and
shoot all the good guys in the head just to see where it takes me. Saying
that there are annoyances - it seems to be a lot less stable since the PS3
patch; some of the conversations can't be repeated; the random encounters
can be a pain to get; and the annoyance that with a level cap of 20 and a
choice of four perks for that level you need to save just prior to
leveling up in order to try them all out, or play the whole game four
times.
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On 2/10/2009 1:47 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> I just want to blow up Megaton, crush Moira's dreams, burn Harold, and
> shoot all the good guys in the head just to see where it takes me.
I'm looking forward to playing Vault 13* as an evil bad guy :) Evil
dreams, here I come!
*I think it is. It's the one where you find your father.
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And lo On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:19:19 -0000, Chambers
<ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> did spake thusly:
> On 2/10/2009 1:47 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> I just want to blow up Megaton, crush Moira's dreams, burn Harold, and
>> shoot all the good guys in the head just to see where it takes me.
>
> I'm looking forward to playing Vault 13* as an evil bad guy :) Evil
> dreams, here I come!
>
> *I think it is. It's the one where you find your father.
Oh yes that was cool um Vault 112 [checks] yep. I skipped the whole thing
via the old lady. She just happened to be the first person I spoke to
before being told to make the kid cry.
Annoyingly on Very Hard you get 150% of the experience for killing
someone; although they're much tougher this means I've hit level 20
already. I can still get killed (Talon Company especially are unpleasant
in packs), but it means Radscorpions and the like are just a nuisance and
waste of ammo; heck I'm using the Shishkebab and the Deathclaw Gauntlet on
them to save ammo.
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Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> That could have been better. Both the story and design was very nice and
> it had a few neat little platformng innovations such as the footprints
> showing where you'd land, but it just lacked something IDK.
Exactly my feelings. It would be lame without the tie-ins to the book. Sort
of like pron music without the porn to go with it.
> I've got SS2 to run on XP and added in the SHTUP high-def texture patch
> without a problem if you've got Thief to run so should SS2.
Maybe I'll give it a try. I have three games already I've started and I
can't get in spired to play any of them.
> To be fair you are stuck on a space-station or space-ship in SS1 and SS2
> respectively so gray is the theme ;-)
I understand why. The right answer is to be clever.
Myst had a very small amount of data space available for the way it was
built. So what do they do? They put you on an island, where there's a
natural barrier preventing you from wandering, rather than just a "you can't
go that way" message. None of this Undying "Jammed!" stuff.
> unlike some games I didn't get overtly lost in SS2.
I *still* get lost in Thief. :-) Even Bafford's Manor is pretty baffling
sometimes.
>> And a novel way of doing things. Perhaps Mirror's Edge was inspired a
>> bit by Portal.
>
> Conceptually perhaps,
That's what I meant, yes. More a "puzzle of how to get there" than anything.
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"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> And a novel way of doing things. Perhaps Mirror's Edge was inspired a
> >> bit by Portal.
> >
> > Conceptually perhaps,
> That's what I meant, yes. More a "puzzle of how to get there" than anything.
At least if you turn the red hints off.
I didn't really understand the idea of those hints. When I started playing
the game, I turned them off (I knew about them from the demo) because I felt
that they were completely unnecessary and only ruined one of the assets of
such a game: Having to find the correct path, rather than it being shown you
right on your face.
Even without the hints it wasn't mostly very difficult to guess where to go
next. I can only assume that with the hints it would have been ridiculously
easy.
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