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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 23 Jan 2009 14:01:13
Message: <497a13f9@news.povray.org>
Darren New escreveu:
> He's drugged to his gills. He's *supposed* to be expressionless.

But he stopped! :P

> why it's a dystopia!  Watch the second half of the movie.

I watched it until the end, I believe.  Was there part 2?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 23 Jan 2009 14:11:16
Message: <497a1654$1@news.povray.org>
SPOILERS FOR EQUILIBRIUM BELOW!










nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> He's drugged to his gills. He's *supposed* to be expressionless.
> 
> But he stopped! :P



Yes. And then the acting wasn't wooden any more.  (On the other hand, he'd 
spent his whole life like that and was trying to look wooden so he wouldn't 
get caught, and was a highly trained cleric type dude.)  Check out the 
interplay of expression at the very beginning, before you even know any of 
the story.

>> why it's a dystopia!  Watch the second half of the movie.
> I watched it until the end, I believe.  Was there part 2?

After he stopped taking the drugs. The hand on the railing. While he's 
rearranging his desk.  Stuff like that.   It's subtle, because he's trying 
to hide it.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 23 Jan 2009 14:22:26
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On 23 Jan 2009 13:27:44 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:46:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I also love Berlioz's The Damnation of Faust.
>
>That's a good one.  I also like the Symphonie Fantastique.  

Especially the movement with the 13 timpani.

Harold in Italy?  

>There is a 
>certain irony in KBYU broadcasting that one, it's like they don't know 
>what the story behind the music is.  

Fourth movement: "Marche au supplice"

Convinced that his love is spurned, the artist poisons himself with opium. The
dose of narcotic, while too weak to cause his death, plunges him into a heavy
sleep accompanied by the strangest of visions.

Fifth movement: "Songe d'une nuit de sabbat"

>(KBYU is the radio station run by 
>Brigham Young University, which is owned by the LDS Church - a very 
>conservative organization).
>

I always read that as "LSD Church". It must be a Freudian slip.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 23 Jan 2009 19:20:07
Message: <497a5eb7@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:22:02 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 23 Jan 2009 13:27:44 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:46:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I also love Berlioz's The Damnation of Faust.
>>
>>That's a good one.  I also like the Symphonie Fantastique.
> 
> Especially the movement with the 13 timpani.

Yes.  Or the start of the 5th movement with the strings playing "col 
legno".  That's an extremely eerie sound in and of itself, especially 
with 50+ instruments doing it simultaneously.

> Harold in Italy?

I've got the score for it around here with my score for Symphonie 
Fantastique (both in the same book), but oddly I haven't actually 
listened to it.  I need to find a good recording of it.

>>There is a
>>certain irony in KBYU broadcasting that one, it's like they don't know
>>what the story behind the music is.
> 
> Fourth movement: "Marche au supplice"
> 
> Convinced that his love is spurned, the artist poisons himself with
> opium. The dose of narcotic, while too weak to cause his death, plunges
> him into a heavy sleep accompanied by the strangest of visions.
> 
> Fifth movement: "Songe d'une nuit de sabbat"

Yes, for both of them.  The earlier movements are better, but the idea 
that the subject of the Symphonie is having an opium dream makes it that 
much more ironic. :-)

> 
>>(KBYU is the radio station run by
>>Brigham Young University, which is owned by the LDS Church - a very
>>conservative organization).
>>
>>
> I always read that as "LSD Church". It must be a Freudian slip.

LOL, I have done so myself as well.  Which is funny when driving to work 
I see billboards for various LDS-themed products and services.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 24 Jan 2009 10:23:09
Message: <dtbmn49aakafdcbubkd1gdlejmhshf0ug1@4ax.com>
On 23 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>I've got the score for it around here with my score for Symphonie 
>Fantastique (both in the same book), but oddly I haven't actually 
>listened to it.  I need to find a good recording of it.

One that I like is the Deutsche Gramophone 429511-2 with Herbert von Karajan and
the Berlin Philharmoniker. I see you can get a torrent of it.
My disc has the "Dance of the Sylphs" and "Dance of the Will o' the Wisps" as
fillers.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 24 Jan 2009 13:07:35
Message: <497b58e7@news.povray.org>
Carlo C. wrote:
> Ah, Enya!
> *Caribbean Blue* : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Blue
> Engraved on my heart, forever!
>

http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=player&query=146840


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 24 Jan 2009 13:08:39
Message: <497b5926@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=player&query=146840

Argh, the Java player causes a stuck note at the end...

Better download and use a real module player :)


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 24 Jan 2009 13:11:18
Message: <497b59c6@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> No. Some of the movements (or whatever they're called) are the same melody
> played forward and backward at the same time. Some are the same played
> right
> side up and upside down.  (Crab Canon is like that, too.)

Someone told me she once played a song in the piano where, when you reach
the end, you start playing backwards. But the melody isn't repeated
backwards, you have to *read the score backwards*!

And once had trouble because the helper who changes pages in the score
didn't know this, and changed to the next page instead of waiting for her
to finish playing it backwards and changing to the *previous* page. >.<


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 25 Jan 2009 15:52:49
Message: <497cd121$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:22:43 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 23 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>I've got the score for it around here with my score for Symphonie
>>Fantastique (both in the same book), but oddly I haven't actually
>>listened to it.  I need to find a good recording of it.
> 
> One that I like is the Deutsche Gramophone 429511-2 with Herbert von
> Karajan and the Berlin Philharmoniker. I see you can get a torrent of
> it. My disc has the "Dance of the Sylphs" and "Dance of the Will o' the
> Wisps" as fillers.

Cool, I'll have to see if I can find the disc.  Come to think, I wonder 
if I have that one in my collection - Von Karajan is one of my favourite 
conductors - I've got him conducting Berlin for the Beethoven Symphonies, 
I consider that more or less the definitive recording.  Though Toscanini 
with the NBC Symphony Orchestra is a close second.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Enya does it again
Date: 26 Jan 2009 05:41:59
Message: <oo4rn4ll761uvgmkj5amtas76t1hu78k73@4ax.com>
On 25 Jan 2009 15:52:49 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>Cool, I'll have to see if I can find the disc.  Come to think, I wonder 
>if I have that one in my collection - Von Karajan is one of my favourite 
>conductors - I've got him conducting Berlin for the Beethoven Symphonies, 
>I consider that more or less the definitive recording.  Though Toscanini 
>with the NBC Symphony Orchestra is a close second.

I would also recommend listening to Colin Davis's conducting of any Berlioz.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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