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Darren New escreveu:
> Is it even possible to make a children's movie that isn't going to seem
> fairly trite to an adult? I'll settle for novel, myself. :-)
Have you watched it?
Children are likely to be pretty bored and clueless the whole first
(mute) half of the movie -- its crowning jewel really. My daughter was.
After that, some concessions were made to please the little ones, but
nothing that turn it into suckage.
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scott escreveu:
> The first part was
> pretty boring before they got into space, I don't know maybe if they had
> given Wall-E and Eve more dialogue it could have been interesting?
They are worker droids and have no speech! How about contract some
voice actors to put some imaginary dialogues on old Chaplin/Keaton
movies as well? Perhaps Tom & Jerry could get the same deal too...
I also heard some right-wings were annoyed at the whole post-apocaliptic
world and environmentalist message... can't please greeks and trojans...
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> They are worker droids and have no speech!
Yeh and neither do cars or rats or ants :-)
It's just not the same as previous Pixar films, I kept waiting for them to
suddenly realise that each other could speak and then the film would take
off, and waiting ... and waiting....
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scott escreveu:
>> They are worker droids and have no speech!
>
> Yeh and neither do cars or rats or ants :-)
But the point is that they behave like simple worker droids in the film,
rather than antropomorphic american-way-of-life robots of "Robots", the
old movie from the same creators of Ice Age...
> It's just not the same as previous Pixar films, I kept waiting for them
> to suddenly realise that each other could speak and then the film would
> take off, and waiting ... and waiting....
Yes, that's the beauty of it. Previous Pixar movies were always like:
american toys way of life, american (well, australian actually) fish way
of life, american monsters way of life, american super-heroes way of
life and american cars way of life. They changed a bit from this old
passional subject of John Lasseter (that perfectly fit Disney's agenda)
beginning with Ratattoille and now, Wall-E.
It's a welcome change of pace and I particularly enjoyed that the robots
were portrayed semi-realistic. I also liked how much Wall-E's sad,
battered cameras looked a lot like Woody Allen's sad expression...
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Thanks I have a few laughs, very good short :)
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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> Is it even possible to make a children's movie that isn't going to
>> seem fairly trite to an adult? I'll settle for novel, myself. :-)
>
> Have you watched it?
Yes. Actually, I was referring more to things like Bug's Life than Wall-E. I
didn't see Wall-E as a kid's movie, for exactly the reasons you discussed.
Far too many inside jokes in the beginning and too big a theme (in terms of
global disaster) to really seem like something targeted at children.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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scott wrote:
> I don't know what it was about the film that didn't do it for me,
Did you watch the ones you *did* like on a movie screen, with an audience
around you? It can make a tremendous difference, depending on the movie.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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nemesis wrote:
> battered cameras looked a lot like Woody Allen's sad expression...
Yes! Thank you! I've been trying to figure out who Wall-E looked like from
the first time I saw a movie poster!
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Darren New wrote:
> scott wrote:
>> I don't know what it was about the film that didn't do it for me,
>
> Did you watch the ones you *did* like on a movie screen, with an
> audience around you? It can make a tremendous difference, depending on
> the movie.
Haha, I prefer to see films in the big screens, but I also prefer it if
the rest of the audience are dead quiet, or, if I can possibly manage
it, absent. I usually find other people far distracting from the film.
(Not always a problem with big audiences, but I've had far too many
cinema experiences where the people behind me were treating the place
like a pub...)
Wall-E is a masterpiece ok, it rocked. :)
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Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Haha, I prefer to see films in the big screens, but I also prefer it if
> the rest of the audience are dead quiet, or, if I can possibly manage
> it, absent. I usually find other people far distracting from the film.
I went to see a vampire movie in the middle of the afternoon on a thursday
once. It was the least memorable movie I ever saw, because there were 3
others in the audience.
On the other hand, I saw "The Grudge" and there were dozens of teens down
near the front who'd obviously seen it several times already and were
raising hell, and it was still rather disturbing. :-)
And of course, Rocky Horror Picture Show wouldn't be the same without the
audience.
But I find commedies greatly enhanced by having an audience, which is why
people put in fake soundtracks on the ones you watch by yourself at home.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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