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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 15:50:49
Message: <49120729$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>>   The fingertips are the most sensitive part of the human body. You *really*
>>> want blood samples taken from your fingers?
> 
>> I believe the distinction of being *the* most sentivite part belongs 
>> to... well no, let's not go there... but I believe your mouth rates 
>> higher than your fingertips.
> 
>   No, I'm pretty sure the skin of the fingertips is the most sensitive of
> the human body. I remember reading that (maybe it was from the Guinnes book
> of records, or something like that).
> 
>   OTOH, it might be talking about other type of sensitivity than pain.

Possibly.

I understand that the greatest density of *nerve endings* (which doesn't 
automatically correlate with sensitivity) is the clitoris. (If you 
happen to have one. Obviously.) And that's by a considerable margin.

As to which parts have the best spatial resolution, touch / pressure / 
pain sensitivity, etc... well you would probably have a long argument 
about that. Surely your fingertips are high up on the list, but I doubt 
they're at the top. (Although surely higher than your elbow, which is 
the point you were really trying to make...)

> For
> example, you can read braille writing with your fingertips, but I'm pretty
> certain you can't do it with your tongue, even though a cut on your tongue
> might hurt more than a cut on your fingertip.

Funny you should mention that... I read about some people who conducted 
an experiment where patients learned to "see" through their tongue by 
having a set of electrodes connected to it. So merely reading braille 
should be quite easy.

>   Anyways, a cut in the finger hurts a lot. It's by far not the first place
> I would like a needle to be poked into me.

Actually, I'd prefer to not have any needles poked into me anywhere... >_<

I'm sure you'll agree with me on that point!

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 15:52:49
Message: <491207a1$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> At school we took blood samples from our fingertips. And all
> hemoglobin(?) -measurements made for me are done by taking a blood
> sample from my fingertip. It's not that bad.

Yeah. Unless you play piano.






...oh, wait... o_O

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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:01:22
Message: <491209a2$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
>> At school we took blood samples from our fingertips. And all
>> hemoglobin(?) -measurements made for me are done by taking a blood
>> sample from my fingertip. It's not that bad.
> 
> Yeah. Unless you play piano.
> 

I've played piano.

-Aero


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:10:32
Message: <49120C1E.1000806@hotmail.com>
On 05-Nov-08 19:24, Doctor John wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>>>> I have electrodes all around the upper body. I regularly shave the
>>>> front and sometimes even the back of very hairy men.
>>> TMI?
>> ?Can't find a relevant meaning for that acronym
> 
> Too much information :-)
> 
That was indeed the most likely one. I reasoned that if it was it was 
probably meant as a joke. Yet, not the kind of jokes Andy normally 
makes, so I was not sure I got it.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:15:34
Message: <49120D4C.5050904@hotmail.com>
On 05-Nov-08 21:14, Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> I believe the distinction of being *the* most sentivite part belongs 
>> to... well no, let's not go there... 
> 
> You'd be surprised. Google images for "nervous system homunculus".
> 
The big question is if these images are made by Americans. If it is 
japanese research I assume you can trust them, if it's dutch it may be 
correct too.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:26:49
Message: <49120f99@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >   Anyways, a cut in the finger hurts a lot. It's by far not the first place
> > I would like a needle to be poked into me.

> Actually, I'd prefer to not have any needles poked into me anywhere... >_<

> I'm sure you'll agree with me on that point!

  I prefer doing what is best for my health even if it requires for some
needle to be poked on me.

  Needles have alway stressed me. The worst thing is to have to *wait*
for a long time knowing that they will give you an injection. Waiting is
stressful, you know when your abs get all tense, etc. It consumes your
blood sugar making you dizzy and feel ill.

  In fact, I don't really fear the needle itself. I fear the stress, which
causes the dizziness. Which is rather ironic: Fear of the stress causes the
stress you are fearing to get.

  OTOH, it has gotten much better in later years. A couple of years ago
I had two vaccine shots because I was traveling abroad (one for hepatitis A
and another for tetanus, as the old one was getting expired), and I felt
nothing. No stress, no dizziness, nothing. I felt quite manly when I could
just take the shots like nothing.

  The hepatitis vaccine was one of those which consists of two parts. Half
a year later I had to take the second shot, and still I didn't get any
stress symptoms. It was cool.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:28:25
Message: <49120ff9@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> At school we took blood samples from our fingertips. And all
> hemoglobin(?) -measurements made for me are done by taking a blood
> sample from my fingertip. It's not that bad.

  I have always wondered why they do that. There are many parts of your
body where you basically don't feel any pain, or very little pain from cuts.
Why the fingertips? It sounds like one of the worst possible places to make
cuts, painwise.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:33:03
Message: <4912110f@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> The big question is if these images are made by Americans. 

I was kind of surprised at these images. I've seen similar things in 
museums (i.e., in actual 3D) where the bits in question were about the 
size of a finger or somewhat smaller in these pics. So, yah, ya never know.

ANd of course, this is just the physical number of nerves in the brain 
dedicated to those areas. It says nothing about how they interact with 
the rest, hence nothing about how "sensitive" things really are.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:36:09
Message: <491211c9$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> It sounds like one of the worst possible places to make
> cuts, painwise.

It's not a cut, it's more a poke. Nowadays it's almost painless, about 
the same as pinching your fingertip between your fingernails (of the 
other hand, of course). I'd guess it's because it's all capilaries there 
(and convenient of course), so it's really unlikely to bleed long enough 
to get infected or anything. I.e., it clots really fast, and if you only 
need a drop or two, there you go.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: ECG
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:42:47
Message: <49121357$1@news.povray.org>
>> Actually, I'd prefer to not have any needles poked into me anywhere... >_<
> 
>> I'm sure you'll agree with me on that point!
> 
>   I prefer doing what is best for my health even if it requires for some
> needle to be poked on me.

Yeah, well... I'd prefer for it to not be necessary at all. But hey.

>   In fact, I don't really fear the needle itself. I fear the stress, which
> causes the dizziness. Which is rather ironic: Fear of the stress causes the
> stress you are fearing to get.

Yeah, that *is* ironic.

On the other hand, I'm depressed because nobody likes me. And how much 
do you want to bet that nobody likes me because I'm always depressed all 
the time?

IIRC, at school I had an injection for some vaccine or other. But that 
was into the shoulder muscle. Just look the other way. It kinda stings, 
but it's fine. ("Relax please." The words guaranteed to cause every 
muscle in your body to become rigid with tension!)

Actually, wait... Last time I went to the dentist, he injected me with 
some kind of anesthetic. That hurt quite a bit. Especially when injected 
into the pulp cavity inside the tooth. Still, the worst part is 
afterwards, when the drugs wear off... o_O

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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