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From: Thomas Willhalm
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was"POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 11:47:37
Message: <qqmyaw6maue.fsf@uni-konstanz.de>
"Johannes Hubert" <jhu### [at] algonetse> writes:
> 
> Thomas Willhalm wrote in message ...
> >Two remarks:
> >1. Why must the film so negativ? Basically, it's the same old story over
> >and over again: Bad aliens are invading the earth. Why not some good ones,
> >that generate an athmosphere and plant trees around "pathfinder" on mars?
> 
> Nobody said it has to be (or even will be) negative. The theme of the movie
> has yet to be found...

I was referring to the story Gary suggested. In my opinion, it is "negative",
since the aliens are invading the earth (just like in "The War of Worlds",
"Independence Day", "Mars Attacks", etc.).

I think the suggestions to use an well-known old (and therefore not
copyrighted) short story is the best idea.

> Bye the way, did you think about joining?

Well, yes and no. The project is very interesting and I really would like 
to join the team. But on the other hand, I probably won't have the time.
So I decided to follow the discussion more passively than actively. Perhaps
I will be able to provide some computer power (we have several Sun boxes
here), but I don't want to promise that I have the time to create one or
two models.

ThW

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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 11:53:00
Message: <6jcfln$crg$1@oz.aussie.org>
Mike Weber wrote in message <6jcb49$cju$1@oz.aussie.org>...
>I guess I won't be a part of the project since I have no idea what a IRC
>client is... but I do have a suggestion.

Hey, no reason to stand outside because of that. I have never used IRC
myself too. Once we start using it, everyone will get the help (and the
software) he/she needs.
IRC is short for Internet Relay Chat and is simply a way for (keyboard)
chatting.

>Since this project is the first in
>its kind, I suggest that a short film should be created, 15 minutes or so.

I think there are already many who want to go for something longer. I
personally like Mark's idea of starting two projects: A short 10min thing
immediately as a tryout for our organisation and communication and a little
while later, parallel, the real thing.

>Anyone interested in the project should then create a general storyboard
(or
>storyline or...??) to the newsgroup or website or whatever will be used as
>the central point for the project.  All others involved in the project
>should vote (with a deadline for closing votes) on their preferred story.
>The stoy getting the most votes is the one to use.


That's what I was thinking too: Everyone can submit an idea and a
plot-synopsis and then we all decide in a vote which one we take. And then
the writers go to work turning it into a script...

I hope to hear from you that you want to be with us :-)

Johannes -:- MovieProject Coordinator


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From: Mike Weber
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 12:09:19
Message: <6jcgfj$cum$1@oz.aussie.org>
Johannes Hubert wrote in message <6jcfln$crg$1@oz.aussie.org>...
<snip>
>That's what I was thinking too: Everyone can submit an idea and a
>plot-synopsis and then we all decide in a vote which one we take. And then
>the writers go to work turning it into a script...
>
>I hope to hear from you that you want to be with us :-)
>
>Johannes -:- MovieProject Coordinator
>
>
>
I'd like to participate - BUT, like others, I truly don't have the time to
contribute anything useful.  I barely have time to read and post here. I'm
doing this during compile times at my work.

Mike


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From: Twyst
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 13:20:27
Message: <6jchgq$d12$1@oz.aussie.org>
Gary Shannon wrote in message <01bd7e52$1a12ce20$197a89d0@reboot>...
>I've got an animated "The Movie Project" Logo I made just for fun.  See
>what you think (Warning, it's a 1.5Meg AVI with soundtrack).  If other
>people have some logo ideas lets have a look at them ALL and then decide
>which one to use.
>
>Logo Download: http://www.rio.com/~reboot/test.html
>
Wow! very cool. I like it! =)

Twyst


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From: David VanHorn
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 13:29:17
Message: <6jclgj$dbk$1@oz.aussie.org>
>I can be a Render-Slave if required. My own machine is a K6-233 and it sits
>idle during the day, and I have access to two Pentium 133 which can be used
>during the night and weekends.


I've got some fun models I can share, and I can also be a render-slave
(we DO get our names up in lights, don't we??)

I've got a P6-233 here, plus P200mmx, shopping for a Pii400

Have a look at the bovine RC5-64 project for a good example of how to
distribute
massive amounts of crunching over the net.


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From: David VanHorn
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject!
Date: 13 May 1998 13:30:36
Message: <6jclj2$dbn$1@oz.aussie.org>
>One note on this project.  Maybe it should be broken into two seperate
>movies.  The first one created would be a 10 min short with simple
animation
>and sound just to test the setup of the organization.  That way big
problems
>are fixed before we start to invest alot of time.  Also, people wanting to
>get started right away with rendering can work on the 10 min short while
the
>most difficult part, the story board for a 60+ min movie, is finished.


Absolutely!  I just saw a bit on disney that illustrated how they "test
flew" the
techniques to be used in "snow white" in another shorter feature.


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From: Alain CULOS
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 15:20:50
Message: <3559F292.D19E05@bigfoot.com>
Hi All MovieProject fans,

I'd propose myself as a simple art team member and render slave (PPro 200MHz, 64MB
RAM, some disk, hoping to upgrade both RAM and disk soon, Win95 although I also have
Linux but did not have time to play with it yet).

Ian seems to be very 'au-fait' with the world we try to dip our toes into. Considering
he has little spare time I would not chance asking him about taking over an Arts
Director seat or other, but maybe promote him to a seat as overall advisor giving
hints to each and every director - direct reporting line to each director - as time
permits obviously.
Would you feel comfortable there Ian ?

On the technical side of things we may need a Technical director with configuration
management capabilities (or a lot of free time and the urge to learn about it). I
really think that a big project should be seriously tracked with good configuration
management tools - i.e. CVS/RCS, both available in GNU flavors for Unix/Linux but also
Win95, and I'm probably forgetting many platforms.
That is in my opinion the best way to protect ourselves from loosing important data
(scenes).
I have a good understanding of the concepts, but no time for that sort of activity, I
also am registered in the CVS mailing list, shall we make an announcement in that list
to recruit such a person ?

I am willing to participate in side artistic issues like for instance the little mice
that gnaw the scenes's curtains or such nice little beasts - could be eating up part
of the screen.
I am a programmer by profession and I could help with whatever utility that could make
things easier for scenes, or POV code (even though I did not touch it to date, it does
not frighten me the slightest, I have worked on several very large scale software -
8MB source code). I am also somewhat skilled at mathematics if that is any help.

I guess you all agree to vote for Johannes as our overall director. Nobody said so,
but by replying to that chances are you agree, yet it would be nicer if people really
said they agree.

Johannes has my VOTE for the seat of director of this project.

See you soon,
Al.

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From: Alain CULOS
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was"POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 17:38:53
Message: <355A12ED.BC8DB3A9@bigfoot.com>
Hi All,

I would appreciate very much if we could make it international rather than just
American (with all due respect to American people). Could we not find global symbols
that represent all of us on this planet Earth, rather than a selected few ?
Yes I'm being political, but I think it makes sense for such a project.

Regards,
Al.


Gary Shannon wrote:

<snip>

> Scene 2: The American flag in the foreground, LEM in the background. Seed bounces to
the ground.  Camera pans to follow it as it bounces and rolls into a small crater near
the old LEM.

<snip>

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From: Alain CULOS
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 17:41:21
Message: <355A1380.FCF917BD@bigfoot.com>
Hi,

I've now browsed quickly through the Project's web page, and see many directors have
already been appointed !!!
Great, that's moving fast.

Still, my comments still hold about configuration management.
Cherio,
Al.


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From: Gary Shannon
Subject: Re: Proposing MovieProject! (was "Group Movie Project", was"POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!")
Date: 13 May 1998 21:41:07
Message: <01bd7ed9$ad16d680$1d7a89d0@reboot>
Good point.  I actually hadn't intended it to be a "nationalsitic" symbol,
just a "piece of something" left on the moon by human beings to set the
scene.  I agree that this should be a truly international project!

As others have pointed out, however, the story is awefully negative, and
probably wouldn't make a good project for the group.

Side note:  It might be nice to include the software we all used in the
credits.  Something like "rendered with POV-Ray",  maybe mention whatever
other pieces of freeware and shareware were used ( like Paintshop Pro,
CoolEdit, etc...) in case others would like to know what they need to do
that kind of work, and to show what can be accomplished with low-cost
tools.  Maybe put those multi-thousand dollar software packages to shame!?


--Gary.

Alain CULOS <ZAl### [at] bigfootcom> wrote in article
<355A12ED.BC8DB3A9@bigfoot.com>...
> Hi All,
> 
> I would appreciate very much if we could make it international rather
than just American (with all due respect to American people). Could we not
find global symbols that represent all of us on this planet Earth, rather
than a selected few ?
> Yes I'm being political, but I think it makes sense for such a project.
> 
> Regards,
> Al.
> 
> 
> Gary Shannon wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Scene 2: The American flag in the foreground, LEM in the background.
Seed bounces to the ground.  Camera pans to follow it as it bounces and
rolls into a small crater near the old LEM.
> 
> <snip>
> 
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